Linux-Setup Digest #64, Volume #21 Tue, 17 Apr 01 23:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Booting win98 in /dev/hdd1 with LILO? (Dave Uhring)
Re: What about 1024 cylinder limitation (Dave Uhring)
Re: 2.2.16 -> 2.2.18 migration, modules problem (Dave Uhring)
Re: New system: No Sound (Dave Uhring)
Re: Using LILO and modules.conf for boot hardware profiles? (Kevin Davis�)
Re: How do I start gnome? (Dave Uhring)
Re: RedHat 7.1 ISO? (pete@-)
Re: How do I start gnome? ("ray")
Re: Partitioning and LILO (David)
Re: New system: No Sound (David)
Re: Kernel Patching Question (Rick)
xmms quit working (John Scudder)
Re: New system: No Sound (Dave Uhring)
Booting linux on a robot (Jasmin Letendre)
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting win98 in /dev/hdd1 with LILO?
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:09:35 -0500
Jason Lott wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:37:19 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Artabros) wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>> I'm trying to boot windows 98 on slave HDD of IDE Secondary Controller
>>(/dev/hdd1). My lilo.conf contents:
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------
>>boot=/dev/hda
>>root=/dev/hda1
>>message=/etc/lilo.msg
>>prompt
>>single-key
>>timeout=60
>>install=/boot/boot.b
>>map=/boot/map
>>vga=ask
>>disk=/dev/hdd
>> bios=0x81
>>(...)
>>other=/dev/hdd1
>> table=/dev/hdd
>> loader = /boot/os2_d.b
>> label=win98
>> alias=7
>> map-drive = 0x80
>> to = 0x81
>> map-drive = 0x81
>> to = 0x80
>>-----------------------------------------------
>> Once i select that option in lilo's prompt, appears an error message
>>advicing that there's non-system disk and when I press a key, it tells me
>>that there isn't an active partition (or something like that). Win98
>>is correctly installed (when it's in /dev/hda1, it works):
>>
>> Disk /dev/hdd: 32 heads, 63 sectors, 524 cylinders
>> Units = cylinders of 2016 * 512 bytes
>>
>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
>>/dev/hdd1 * 1 524 528160+ b Win95 FAT32
>>
>> Somebody knows what is happening?
>> Thanks in advance and sorry for my english! :P
>
> I doubt that will happen without a totally different boot manager... Even
> then, I'm not sure that it will overcome the limitation of the fact that
> Windows was installed on the drive (when the drive was the primary master)
> and you're wanting to move that drive to secondary slave.
>
> Part of the problem is the fact that the windows drive master boot record
> (MBR) still points to the primary master (/dev/hda1 in linux terms)
> because that's where everything was when the drive/windows was installed.
> Even with the map-drive parameters in lilo.conf, the MBR of the windows
> drive is still pointing to the MASTER device of the SECONDARY channel
> (which may even be a cdrom drive, or a another non-bootable hard disk
> drive). An answer as complicated as the miracle you're trying to
> accomplish. :)
>
> Even with re-installation of Windows, Windows will insist on storing
> system files on the primary master ( That's microsoft for you ). On the
> other hand, the linux configuration can be modified in such a way as to
> facilitate it's migration from being on the primary master to the
> secondary slave... allowing you to keep both filesystems (windows/linux)
> intact.
>
You will have better luck putting your Windows drive as slave on the
primary IDE controller (/dev/hdb). In fact the BIOS drive re-mapping you
show in your lilo.conf has it there.
Don't worry about Windows being unable to reside on the slave drive.
Because of the BIOS re-mapping, it will act as if it were on the master
drive.
You do NOT want the loader or alias lines in your Windows part of lilo.conf.
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What about 1024 cylinder limitation
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:12:26 -0500
XAG wrote:
> I try to install linux and windows on the same disk and I have a problem
> with LILO.
> My HD is 20 Go and depending on where is the linux partition I have a
> message about the 1024 cylinder limitation.
> During one of my tries, I had the 'L' of LILO at boot time but nothing
> else. I have heard about a problem between bios config of the HD and LILO.
> As I have two disks and I 've changed the master switch (the original was
> a 15 Go), have I to reconfigure the Bios.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
I have Slackware installed in the last 11GB of a 45GB drive. Just make
sure that you have the latest version of lilo.
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.16 -> 2.2.18 migration, modules problem
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:13:52 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ne... says...
>>
>>On Apr 11, 2001 at 00:40, David Shifflett eloquently wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>I have installed the 2.2.16-22 kernel
>>>from the Redhat 7.0 distribution.
>>>I then downloaded, compiled and installed the 2.2.18
>>>kernel from source, using the following commands:
>>>make mrproper
>>>make xconfig
>>>make dep bzImage modules modules_install
>>>sh /usr/src/linux-2.2.18/arch/i386/boot/install.sh 2.2.18 \
>>>/usr/src/linux-2.2.18/arch/i386/boot/bzImage System.map /boot
>>Don't know where you get the sh command from but I use
>>
>>cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18
>>cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.2.18
>
> The script I use does the copies you list
> as well as preserving backup copies.
>
>>make my adjustments to /etc/lilo.conf, run
>>/sbin/lilo and reboot. Try that and report
>>back whether this works. Oh and lose the
>>make xconfig. Use make menuconfig instead.
>>
> <snip>
>
> You missed the point entirely.
> The compiling and boot work fine.
>
> It is the recognition of the modules that I am having trouble with.
> Any help on getting the modules auto-loaded, or recognized?
>
> Oh and just because you like 'make menuconfig' doesn't mean
> make xconfig is bad, or doesn't work.
>
> thanks
> dave
>
>
>
After make modules_install run
# depmod -a
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New system: No Sound
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:21:27 -0500
Norman Baccari wrote:
>
> Howdee!
> Im hoping someone can shed some light on
> my situation as Im getting very frustrated.
> When my old Pentium166's hard drive crashed
> I decided it was time to by a new system. I
> had been running linux on this old system
> for about 4 years going through various
> vers. of redhat releases with no problems. I
> had an ISA soundblaster card and no sound problems.
>
> Now the new system comes in and I have yet to get
> sound working. The new system is as follows,
>
> Processor: PIII 733MHz
> Memory: 256M
> HDrive: 20G
> Motherboard: MS6309 VIA694x VT82C694
> OS : Windoze98 and Redhat7.0 via LILO boot
> Kernel: 2.2.16-22 Aug 22,2000
> Desktop: KDE 2.1.0-70x
> SoundCard: Creative Soundblaster PCI128
>
> On the initial install of RH7, sound did not
> work right from the beginning. At first I tried
> to get the onboard VIA sound to work before installing
> the SB card. Using sndconfig, I got a message that
> said the via chip set was not supported. Other people
> had success using ALSA so I tried using ALSA but
> during the install I got an error message saying ALSA
> did not support my kernel version. I abandoned the
> VIA sound and disabled it in the BIOS, and bought a
> SBpci128 card. I went back to sndconfig and it recognized
> the card as "Ensoniq 5880 pci128", not a sbpci128 as I
> might have expected. Sndconfig also said the card was
> unsupported. I should note that both the VIA sound chips
> and the SB128 performed perfectly under windoze98.
> I started looking into compiling a new kernel but when I
> tried to run either "make xconfig" or "make menuconfig"
> I got an error saying "no rules for make"
> Where do I go from here???????
> Very frustated! Cant hear my trains crash in RT2 :)
>
> Thanks !!!!
> Norman Baccari
>
Install the alsa drivers and library. At boot up run
# modprobe snd-card-via686a
# modprobe snd-pcm-oss
You can do this either from the command line or put it into a startup
script. Not that the driver will be muted until you turn it up with one of
your mixers.
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From: Kevin Davis� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using LILO and modules.conf for boot hardware profiles?
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:23:33 GMT
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:44:19 +0200, "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I am not sure why it does this. If I did, I would try to fix it.
>
>Then why not try to find it out.
I am. That's why I made this post in the first place
>what does `cat /proc/scsi/scsi` return when you have both the driver
>for that card loaded, and you have enabled ide-scsi emulation for
>the CDR. And if you have only one of the two scsi devices?
>Anything shows up in /var/log/messages?
>dmesg?
I don't know. I'll have to check.
>
>> think that this may happen is that the SCSI card I have came with the
>> scanner and is a special single device card. IMO, the real solution
>> should have been for Linux not to force such a kludgy solution for an
>> IDE CDR.
>
>It's not kludgy IMO
We're all entitled to our opinions. I respect yours.
>
>> So it looks like Linux can't handle this configuration and
>
>I doubt it. (Though I'm not sure)
>But I most certainly have a setup where both a real SCSI HDD and a
>IDE DVD-RAM (which I use with ide-scsi emulation) work.
>
Do you have a multi-device SCSI card/interface? Or a single device
like mine?
>> Windows does (just like my sound card).
>
>Are you sure it doesn't work? Or have you just been unsuccesfull in
>getting it to work? (I'm not attacking you, I'm just curious)
I would love it if I could get it to work. But I have basically given
up on it. Linux sees it as an unknown/unsupported Creative Labs
multimedia device. I have not seen any How-To's specifically for my
card. It is an AWE64D. Before you jump at me that there are AWE32/64
How-To's, you are exactly right. However, as far as I can tell these
are documenting how to set up AWE32/64 card that are ISA cards. The
AWE64D is a OEM PCI card. I tried to make it work using the standard
(ISA) AWE How-To's but it doesn't seem to know how to talk to this
card through the PCI bus. I'm all ears if you know how to get it to
work.
>And under windows this just works because you get a driver
>from the manufacturer. If you were given a linux driver any hardware
>would work under linux just as fine.
Exactly. Bottom line - it works in Windows and doesn't in Linux. I
understand the reason but it really is largely irrelevant to the fact
that it doesn't work and probably never will.
=======================================
What could possibly go wrong?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove the z's from my address)
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I start gnome?
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:24:40 -0500
ray wrote:
> How do I start gnome from fvwm?
> Thanks for help
>
>
>
>
Create a ~/.xinitrc file with the line:
exec gnome-session
>From the console, NOT already in X, run the command
% startx
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From: pete@- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 7.1 ISO?
Date: 17 Apr 2001 16:58:28 -0700
try
ftp sunsite.ualberta.ca
it is very slow (it in in Canada, so what do you expect? :)
ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 2600089
-rw-r--r-- 1 service service 233 Apr 17 09:27 MD5SUM
-rw-r--r-- 1 service mirror 678244352 Apr 8 22:08 seawolf-i386-SRPMS.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 service mirror 672518144 Apr 8 22:06 seawolf-i386-disc1.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 service mirror 668551168 Apr 8 22:07 seawolf-i386-disc2.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 service mirror 641806336 Mar 5 16:33
seawolf-i386-powertools.iso
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From: "ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I start gnome?
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:58:14 +0800
I could not find gnome-session command.
It gives me an error saying command not found.
Could it be because I did not install gnome?
Thank you
"Dave Uhring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ray wrote:
>
> > How do I start gnome from fvwm?
> > Thanks for help
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Create a ~/.xinitrc file with the line:
>
> exec gnome-session
>
> From the console, NOT already in X, run the command
>
> % startx
>
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitioning and LILO
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:37:19 GMT
Phil Matthews wrote:
>
> "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> <Snip>
> > This is how I have a 9.1 GB drive setup. If/when I reinstall again I
> > will make /usr larger somewhere around 2-2.5 GB. But all that is
> > "required" is "/" root and swap.
> >
> > df -h
> > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/hda1 99M 43M 50M 46% /
> > /dev/hda5 6.1G 4.0G 1.7G 70% /home
> > /dev/hda10 152M 337k 144M 0% /tmp
> > /dev/hda6 1.2G 1009M 113M 90% /usr
> > /dev/hda9 243M 6.2M 224M 3% /usr/src
> > /dev/hda7 387M 121M 246M 33% /var
> >
> I have just installed Linux (Peanut dist.) on an 8GB drive. The
> installation (boot CD) allows for only / & swap so everything has been
> installed to the / partition. I would now like to use the other partitions
> on my disk (I have already set up and formatted ext2 partitions for /usr ,
> /var & /home) but am unsure how to go about it. Is it just a case of moving
> the contents of the /usr (/var, /home) directory to the relevant partition
> and then creating a symbolic link, or is there a configuration file
> somewhere?
>
> TIA
> Phil
>
> I would appreciate cc's to my e-mail address.
You would have to add or change the mount point for each partition in
/etc/fstab but this would leave you with a fairly empty and large "/"
partition. I haven't ever tried the Peanut distro but find it kind of
odd that you couldn't configure the partitions to your liking.
One question about the distro just for personal info.
Was there a "Custom" install choice or an option to partition the drive
and choose what to install during the install or was it more of a this
is what you get type of deal?
--
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New system: No Sound
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:43:39 GMT
> Norman Baccari wrote:
>
> > SoundCard: Creative Soundblaster PCI128
My SB PCI 128 uses the es1370 driver and works great but there is also a
different version of the PCI 128 that uses the es1371 driver.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick)
Subject: Re: Kernel Patching Question
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:32:01 GMT
Jason Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:23:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick) wrote:
>
>>Hello Folks,
>>
>>I currently run RH 5.2 with the 2.0.36 kernel. I would like to
>>upgrade to the 2.2.x kernel to have support for the Promise Ultra 100
>>controller. However, I don't know what patch level I should upgrade
>>to. I have looked at kernel.org and Hendrick's patch site, but there
>>doesn't seem to be any info as to what hardware the various patches
>>support, that is, should x be 11, 12 ,13 ? I figure it doesn't make
>>sense to install additional patches for hardware I don't have, but
>>maybe this is common practice. Is there a list somewhere with a
>>description of the the various patches ? Also, it is reasonable to
>>expect that the rest of RH 5.2 will run correctly with an upgraded
>>kernel, or should I expect to have to download upgrades of
>>applications ?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Rick
>
>You may want to consider installing a new kernel... When it comes to patches,
>you can't simply apply one patch to go from 2.0.36 to 2.2.12 ( unless it's
>specialized by a contributor )... You'll have to include all of the patches in
>between, otherwise you'll break the source code, by trying adding new code that
>may reference new variables/symbols that should have been added from a previous
>patch ( or vice-versa, old code that should have been removed by a previous
>patch references variables/symbols that were removed by a later patch ).
Ok, I thought I'd have to load 2.2.0 and then apply patches to get up
to 2.2.x, but what people are telling me is that I can download 2.2.19
directly.
>
>For that reason, I'd recommend upgrading to at least 2.2.16... Keep in mind that
>you may also have to upgrade some other core libraries that linux uses ( libc,
>glibc, initscripts, etc. ).
Ok, that's what I was afraid of. Is there any way to know what would
need to be upgraded without trying to use it and finding out it
doesn't work ?
Rick
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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xmms quit working
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:36:43 -0400
My distribution is Linux-Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.1.1. Originally I had
used the RPM installation of KDE but after hearing of increased
performance of compiled KDE, I reinstalled from tarballs.
So now xmms doesn't work, it did before with the RPM installation.
Everything else works soundwise, it is just xmms that refuses to make
noise...
* I don't get any error messages to guide me.
* I tried the arts plugin, nothing.
* It doesn't matter if I run as root or user.
* I tried changing soundservers in KDE and changing the I/O preferences
in xmms, still nothing.
* I reinstalled first the RPM and then the tarball versions of xmms,
still nada.
What have I missed?
John
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New system: No Sound
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:42:54 -0500
David wrote:
>> Norman Baccari wrote:
>>
>
>> > SoundCard: Creative Soundblaster PCI128
>
>
> My SB PCI 128 uses the es1370 driver and works great but there is also a
> different version of the PCI 128 that uses the es1371 driver.
>
He also mentioned the VIA chipset first. The PCI128 with the ens1371 chip
works pretty well, too. One of these days soon, I'm going to have to get
out and buy another one for my new Athlon system. The VIA 686a sound chip
doesn't have a driver for Solaris, which is what I use most of the time.
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From: Jasmin Letendre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Booting linux on a robot
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:50:45 GMT
I'm currently developping a six legged robots. The robot has an on-board
conmputer and we want it to boot from a flash disk. We use Linux
Mandrake. After long hour of trial and error, we managed to boot from
the flash disk and have the prompt for a logging name.
The problem is that any user name we enter (even root!) gives a "login
invalid" without even asking for a password. And if we press
Ctrl+Alt+Delete, it says "You don't exist. Go away!"
Does anybody has an idea about this problem?
Thanks.
Jasmin
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