Linux-Setup Digest #154, Volume #21 Wed, 2 May 01 21:13:07 EDT
Contents:
SSH on RH 6.2 ? (John Beardmore)
Re: SSH on RH 6.2 ? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Odd differences between 2.4.3 and 2.4.4 kernels ("Peter T. Breuer")
Moving /boot vs. fstab in RH7.1 (Darren Enns)
Re: SSH on RH 6.2 ? (John Beardmore)
Re: Redhat7-1 on 2nd physical drive & SystemCommander 2000 ("Alex")
Re: Magic partition on linux? ("Alex")
Re: Redhat7-1 on 2nd physical drive & SystemCommander 2000 ("Brian Walton")
Re: SSH on RH 6.2 ? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Can't print (drivers?) ("S. Park")
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SSH on RH 6.2 ?
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:28:35 +0100
I've got a server I need to log into over Internet and intranet.
I don't want to use telnet so I guess SSH is an option.
We have F-Secure SSH 1.0 for windows, but is there a server it can talk
to on RH 6.2 ? If so, how do I enable it ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: SSH on RH 6.2 ?
Date: 2 May 2001 23:44:10 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
]I've got a server I need to log into over Internet and intranet.
]I don't want to use telnet so I guess SSH is an option.
]We have F-Secure SSH 1.0 for windows, but is there a server it can talk
]to on RH 6.2 ? If so, how do I enable it ?
sshd from openssh.
rpm -Uhv openssh* openssh-clients* openssh-server*
where I assume you are in the RPMS directory.
(If Redhat does not have it, go to a Mandrake site, and get those
openssh files from there)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Odd differences between 2.4.3 and 2.4.4 kernels
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:27:55 +0200
Gary Dolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is not a problem as much as a confession of
> puzzlement. I have both 2.4.3. and 2.4.4. compiled
> and I use them for comparison. Vanilla setup, 400
> Mhz. Pentium II, 256 M RAM. Using the "same" choices
> in both .config files for compiling (some choices are,
> of course, different, but the significant stuff is the
> same), there is a resulting noticeable difference in
> the time it takes X windows to exit (using blackbox,
> icewm, pwm, and Gnome with all of these), from about
> a second or two for 2.4.3 to about 10-15 seconds for
> 2.4.4. Obviously, I'm just curious, but anyone have
> some knowledge on the issue? Thanks.
I believe parent/child fork priority changes are responsible.
They should be backed out again by 2.4.5.
Peter
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From: Darren Enns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Moving /boot vs. fstab in RH7.1
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 23:48:26 GMT
My new RH 7.1 installation is mostly on my 3rd hard drive. Since my
CDROM drive
is actually the 3rd device, this makes this drive /dev/hdd.
I found out the hard way that I cannot actually BOOT off the /boot
partition
on /hdd directly. Instead, I have this crazy scheme where my relevant
boot
files live in the /boot directory of the hdb drive -- my original RH 6.1
system.
This is a pain every time I need to do lilo work -- I have to boot into
my
other RH system to do this.
So, the /boot on my RH 7.1 drive is mostly useless. This is too bad,
but life
goes on.
However, I would like my RH 7.1 system to consider /dev/hdb5 (my RH 6.1
boot
partition) to be its own boot partition. How do I do this? Simply by
changing fstab?
Maybe, but my fstab doesn't look like it did in the old days -- the
entry
for /boot uses a label instead of a device location:
LABEL=/ / ext2 defaults
1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot ext2 defaults
1 2
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner
0 0
none /proc proc defaults
0 0
none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620
0 0
/dev/hdd2 swap swap defaults
0 0
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660
noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
Any ideas? Thanks
Dare
--
Darren Enns
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP: members.home.net/dmenns
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SSH on RH 6.2 ?
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:05:23 +0100
In article <9cq64a$ldi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Unruh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Beardmore
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>]I've got a server I need to log into over Internet and intranet.
>
>]I don't want to use telnet so I guess SSH is an option.
>
>]We have F-Secure SSH 1.0 for windows, but is there a server it can talk
>]to on RH 6.2 ? If so, how do I enable it ?
>
>sshd from openssh.
>rpm -Uhv openssh* openssh-clients* openssh-server*
>where I assume you are in the RPMS directory.
This is the RPMS directory on the install disk ?
>(If Redhat does not have it, go to a Mandrake site, and get those
>openssh files from there)
I don't have a 6.2 install disk to hand but there seems to be a
..../RPMS/openssh bunch of files on an RH7 disk.
Does anybody know if RH7 rpm files will install on RH 6.2 ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,redhat.config,redhat.hardware.arch.intel,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: Redhat7-1 on 2nd physical drive & SystemCommander 2000
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 10:29:49 +1000
After another long night of re-installing, the situation is now baffling me
more than ever.
as RH7-1 install program recommended, I have now created a small primary
linux partition at the start of the 1st physical drive (7.8Meg). On
completion of the install, I get the following messages
"device 0X0302 exceeds 1024 cyclinder limit"
- but I made deliberate attempt to create the partition at the start of the
drive, so this should not happen ?
"Fatal: sector 45431820 too large for linear mode (try 'lba32' instead)"
- but I deliberately unchecked the linear format during the lilo
configuration screen. ??
FYI, I used partition magic 6, to resize existing Win2K partition so that
the /boot partition resides in front of that.
The current partition setup looks like this... which is also how partition
magic graphically shows it.
[/boot(7.8Meg)] [/SWAP(150Meg)] [Win2K (20G)primary] [WinME(25G)primary]
[/ linux root (5Gig) primary] [FAT32 logical (1G)]
during the install process, Druid displays the followig
hda0 to 3 .... contains the various win OSes.
hda4 ..... which I mounted as /boot
hda5 .... mounted as the swap drive
hdb1 ..... mounted as "/" (note this is classified as a primary partition
on 2nd physical drive).
hdb7 .... existing FAT32 partition at the end of the 2nd physical drive ...
a data partition.
How do I clarify or check the "/boot" partition is within the 1024 cyclinder
restriction. If not what corrective action can I take without a complete
overhaul of the partitions that I currently have in place ??
And to answer your question Paul ... please look below.
Paul Lew wrote in message ...
>On Wed, 2 May 2001 11:37:46 +1000, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Foremost,
>> thank you Anna and Paul Lew for your previous feedback.
>>
>> After consulting the various help /doc files within SC2000, and all other
>> relevant docs, none seem to relate to my unique set up. Most documents
>> give me instruction on loading linux as a second OS on the first PHYSICAL
>> Hard disk drive.
>> I need to hear back from someone who has been using system commander with
>> linux on a primary second physical HDD.
>
>Do you need linux as the "Primary" driver on the *secondary* ide
controller?
>My setup has linux on the 2nd physical drive as the *slave* on the ide
>controller; dos & win98se is on the 1st physical drive and lilo is *not*
>in the mbr.
***** Something I thought about as well. I did convert my previous setup to
a logical partition and installed as per normal, allowing the lilo config to
look at the first partition on the 2nd physical drive. It too came back
with my earlier message that said something about the partition error not
being on the 1st physical drive.
Please tell me, your logical partition on the 2nd physical drive is running
off as an extended partition from a "parent" FAT32 structure or a native
linux primary partition.
>> My setup is as follow : (SC2000 detects the new linux partition on
startup,
>> but will not boot to linux ?)
>>
>> first IDE channel (45GB HDD): hda0 (NTFS:W2K:primary) ; hda1 (FAT32:
>> WinME:primary)
>> second IDE channel (6GB HDD): Primary Linux = hda0(/boot) ; hda1(/SWAP)
;
>> hda2(/) ; hda5(FAT32:extended logical)
>>
>> The combined two primary partitions : W2K and Fat32 is working perfectly
>> with system commander 2000. So I wish not to change or add any partitions
to
>> the first physical drive if possible.
>> My research have shown that LILO must be installed in order to boot from
the
>> hard drive (as far as RH7-1 is concerned).
>> So, bearing that in mind the install process reported an error that /boot
is
>> not residing on the first 1024 "section" of the 1st physical drive. What
>> this means is that I now have to resize the W2K to accommodate a small
>> "/boot" partition for linux to startup.
>
>The "later" lilo (2.6+) is supposed to handle the gt 1024 cyl problem if
>the bios is capable of lba (or auto, sometimes).
***** Red Hat 7.1 which I am using must have the latest version of Lilo.
Can you elaborate on the bios "factor" ?
My machine is only 1 month old, so it must have the latest bios with the P4
intel architecture.
>>
>> It appears that it is "impossible" to boot up an OS from a second
physical
>> drive not containing the MBR ????
>
>I didn't change the mbr of my slave 2nd physical drive.
** my understanding is that the MBR on the 2nd physical drive has no impact
what so ever on the system, because with two IDE HDD, only the 1st physical
drive's MBR is looked into by the bios. Correct me if I'm wrong ?
>> Is this a bios limitation ? Does anyone have a work around, such that I
do
>> not have to put the "/boot" on the 1st hard drive?
>
>The only time I had to place a "boot" on the 1st hardrive was when using
>solaris 7 as solaris would not configure its boot/root stuff on the 2nd
>drive.
>
>> I'm now entertaining the idea of making the linux partitons, logical
instead
>> of primary ... will this lead to my desired boot-up from SC2000 (can I
make
>> a logical partition on the second physical drive? ) ??
>>
>> I'd like to hear back from someone who has taken this path before. i.e.
>> installing RH7 on a primary partition located on the second IDE channel,
so
>> that I can plan my next action plan.
>> Thanks all.
>>
>As a guest, your problem may be due to using the 2nd drive on the
>2nd ide channel....
I agree Paul, but I cannot see any logical conclusion to why I am getting
the various error messages keeping in mind some basic understanding .... 4
primary partitions is allowed on the system ... Linux is suppose to be
bootable from any logical/primary partition on any physical HDD .... the
"mutually exclusive" primary partitions of Win2K and WinMe which works
seamlessly together, can't see why Linux cannot be the 3rd active primary
partition.
Can anyone else see a fundamental concept that I am overlooking ? (Please
look in detail on my system setup).
Thanks to all the generous linux users ... for sharing your thoughts and ide
as !
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From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat,redhat.config
Subject: Re: Magic partition on linux?
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 10:46:36 +1000
alfred hammerfield wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>hi
>is there a utility on linux that permit to redistrubut disk partitions
>like partition-magic on Win NT4 ?
>my system: redhat 6.2 kernel 2.2.14-5
>help!
>thanks.
>
As new linux user, I am using partition magic 6 with the many linux
partitions that I have created when trying out various ways to install
linux. As I also multiboot to W2K and ME, partition magic seem to do a good
job of not disturbing the other Win partitions when creating/moving/deleting
linux partitions.
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From: "Brian Walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,redhat.config,redhat.hardware.arch.intel,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: Redhat7-1 on 2nd physical drive & SystemCommander 2000
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:51:33 -0400
Alex,
First off you have a partitioning problem - HDA0-3 are win OSes (first 3
partitions on the drive) HDA4 is /boot after the first 3 then HDA5 swap
which are logical partitions. All logical partitions are in the last (4th)
primary partition which you show 5 primary partitions which is one too many
(you may have just missmarked one). I would put the /boot partition on the
second drive as HDB1 and then install lilo (or GRUB) as the boot manager on
HDA and then at the lilo prompt you can boot any of the OSes. Try getting
the HOWTO's for them @ the following address
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/mini.html . This should help you
set it up.
Good luck,
Brian
PS _ you can email me if you have specific questions.
"Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:MD1I6.123$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> After another long night of re-installing, the situation is now baffling
me
> more than ever.
>
> as RH7-1 install program recommended, I have now created a small primary
> linux partition at the start of the 1st physical drive (7.8Meg). On
> completion of the install, I get the following messages
>
> "device 0X0302 exceeds 1024 cyclinder limit"
> - but I made deliberate attempt to create the partition at the start of
the
> drive, so this should not happen ?
>
> "Fatal: sector 45431820 too large for linear mode (try 'lba32' instead)"
> - but I deliberately unchecked the linear format during the lilo
> configuration screen. ??
>
> FYI, I used partition magic 6, to resize existing Win2K partition so that
> the /boot partition resides in front of that.
> The current partition setup looks like this... which is also how partition
> magic graphically shows it.
> [/boot(7.8Meg)] [/SWAP(150Meg)] [Win2K (20G)primary]
[WinME(25G)primary]
> [/ linux root (5Gig) primary] [FAT32 logical (1G)]
>
> during the install process, Druid displays the followig
> hda0 to 3 .... contains the various win OSes.
> hda4 ..... which I mounted as /boot
> hda5 .... mounted as the swap drive
>
> hdb1 ..... mounted as "/" (note this is classified as a primary partition
> on 2nd physical drive).
> hdb7 .... existing FAT32 partition at the end of the 2nd physical drive
...
> a data partition.
>
> How do I clarify or check the "/boot" partition is within the 1024
cyclinder
> restriction. If not what corrective action can I take without a complete
> overhaul of the partitions that I currently have in place ??
>
> And to answer your question Paul ... please look below.
>
> Paul Lew wrote in message ...
> >On Wed, 2 May 2001 11:37:46 +1000, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Foremost,
> >> thank you Anna and Paul Lew for your previous feedback.
> >>
> >> After consulting the various help /doc files within SC2000, and all
other
> >> relevant docs, none seem to relate to my unique set up. Most
documents
> >> give me instruction on loading linux as a second OS on the first
PHYSICAL
> >> Hard disk drive.
> >> I need to hear back from someone who has been using system commander
with
> >> linux on a primary second physical HDD.
> >
> >Do you need linux as the "Primary" driver on the *secondary* ide
> controller?
> >My setup has linux on the 2nd physical drive as the *slave* on the ide
> >controller; dos & win98se is on the 1st physical drive and lilo is *not*
> >in the mbr.
> ***** Something I thought about as well. I did convert my previous setup
to
> a logical partition and installed as per normal, allowing the lilo config
to
> look at the first partition on the 2nd physical drive. It too came back
> with my earlier message that said something about the partition error not
> being on the 1st physical drive.
> Please tell me, your logical partition on the 2nd physical drive is
running
> off as an extended partition from a "parent" FAT32 structure or a native
> linux primary partition.
>
>
> >> My setup is as follow : (SC2000 detects the new linux partition on
> startup,
> >> but will not boot to linux ?)
> >>
> >> first IDE channel (45GB HDD): hda0 (NTFS:W2K:primary) ; hda1
(FAT32:
> >> WinME:primary)
> >> second IDE channel (6GB HDD): Primary Linux = hda0(/boot) ;
hda1(/SWAP)
> ;
> >> hda2(/) ; hda5(FAT32:extended logical)
> >>
> >> The combined two primary partitions : W2K and Fat32 is working
perfectly
> >> with system commander 2000. So I wish not to change or add any
partitions
> to
> >> the first physical drive if possible.
> >> My research have shown that LILO must be installed in order to boot
from
> the
> >> hard drive (as far as RH7-1 is concerned).
> >> So, bearing that in mind the install process reported an error that
/boot
> is
> >> not residing on the first 1024 "section" of the 1st physical drive.
What
> >> this means is that I now have to resize the W2K to accommodate a small
> >> "/boot" partition for linux to startup.
> >
> >The "later" lilo (2.6+) is supposed to handle the gt 1024 cyl problem if
> >the bios is capable of lba (or auto, sometimes).
> ***** Red Hat 7.1 which I am using must have the latest version of Lilo.
> Can you elaborate on the bios "factor" ?
> My machine is only 1 month old, so it must have the latest bios with the
P4
> intel architecture.
>
> >>
> >> It appears that it is "impossible" to boot up an OS from a second
> physical
> >> drive not containing the MBR ????
> >
> >I didn't change the mbr of my slave 2nd physical drive.
> ** my understanding is that the MBR on the 2nd physical drive has no
impact
> what so ever on the system, because with two IDE HDD, only the 1st
physical
> drive's MBR is looked into by the bios. Correct me if I'm wrong ?
>
>
> >> Is this a bios limitation ? Does anyone have a work around, such that
I
> do
> >> not have to put the "/boot" on the 1st hard drive?
> >
> >The only time I had to place a "boot" on the 1st hardrive was when using
> >solaris 7 as solaris would not configure its boot/root stuff on the 2nd
> >drive.
> >
> >> I'm now entertaining the idea of making the linux partitons, logical
> instead
> >> of primary ... will this lead to my desired boot-up from SC2000 (can I
> make
> >> a logical partition on the second physical drive? ) ??
> >>
> >> I'd like to hear back from someone who has taken this path before.
i.e.
> >> installing RH7 on a primary partition located on the second IDE
channel,
> so
> >> that I can plan my next action plan.
> >> Thanks all.
> >>
>
> >As a guest, your problem may be due to using the 2nd drive on the
> >2nd ide channel....
> I agree Paul, but I cannot see any logical conclusion to why I am getting
> the various error messages keeping in mind some basic understanding .... 4
> primary partitions is allowed on the system ... Linux is suppose to be
> bootable from any logical/primary partition on any physical HDD .... the
> "mutually exclusive" primary partitions of Win2K and WinMe which works
> seamlessly together, can't see why Linux cannot be the 3rd active primary
> partition.
>
> Can anyone else see a fundamental concept that I am overlooking ? (Please
> look in detail on my system setup).
>
> Thanks to all the generous linux users ... for sharing your thoughts and
ide
> as !
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: SSH on RH 6.2 ?
Date: 3 May 2001 00:58:03 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>>sshd from openssh.
>>rpm -Uhv openssh* openssh-clients* openssh-server*
>>where I assume you are in the RPMS directory.
>This is the RPMS directory on the install disk ?
Yes.
>>(If Redhat does not have it, go to a Mandrake site, and get those
>>openssh files from there)
>I don't have a 6.2 install disk to hand but there seems to be a
>..../RPMS/openssh bunch of files on an RH7 disk.
>Does anybody know if RH7 rpm files will install on RH 6.2 ?
Check the kernel and the glibc used on that RH7 vs the RH6.2
Alternatively, try it and see.
Alternatively, go to the Redhat site, download the source rpm for
openssh, and rebuild it
rpm --rebuild openssh*src.rpm
and then get the new binary rpms from
/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586
or some such directory. and install them.
>Cheers, J/.
>--
>John Beardmore
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From: "S. Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't print (drivers?)
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 20:03:51 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "James Richard Tyrer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Taavi Hein wrote:
>
>> I've tried to get my printer working, but with no success so far.
>> Distro is RH7 (what I think was workstation ed. or smth -- 4 cd-s),
>> printer is Xerox DocuPrint C6. Any idea on where I could get the
>> appropriate drivers?
> Absolutely none. You don't "get drivers" like you do with M$ Windows.
> Tell PrintTool that it is an HP DeskJet 550. You could have found this
> information at:
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/
>
>> Also I have a winmodem :( and it's Genius GM56PCI-L. From linmodems.org
>> I found the card with Lucent chip (didn't find the drivers though --
>> link didn't work), and a rockwell chipp w/o a card (IIRC, I have a
>> rockwell chip), so I'm a little confused and afraid to mess things up.
>> Any advice would be appreciated.
> Best advice, buy a hardware modem.
> JRT
>
To the original poster:
As Mr. Tyer said, cdj550 will work. Please visit www.linuxprinting.org.
It is quite good site for Linux printing.
For winmodem, try the software recommended. It is just kernel module
which will not mess up your system, and modems are cheap and strong to be
damaged easily.
Cheers.
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