Linux-Setup Digest #163, Volume #21 Thu, 3 May 01 21:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Mail and news client (Chiefy)
Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k? ("Brett")
Xircom Pocket adaptor 10/100 (Thomas SMETS)
Re: xinetd and tftp (Roger Atkinson)
Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k? (Michael Meissner)
Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k? ("Bi0ThiC")
Re: RedHat7.1 on 2nd physical hard drive ("Alex")
Partionless installation (Alberto Fernandes)
Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k? (moonie ;))
Re: Mail and news client (Frank Hahn)
Re: Continuing Network Problem (Dean Thompson)
Re: Can't telnet into RH box from Windows 98 laptop (telnetd[27627]: ttloop: peer
died: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character) ("DMcBee")
Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k? ("Brett")
Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k? ("Brett")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chiefy)
Subject: Re: Mail and news client
Date: 3 May 2001 23:14:50 GMT
03 May 2001 20:34 UTC, Simon Lemieux did say to the dudes:
> I tried slrn and got some trouble out of the editor... I've read somewhere that
> it's supposed to be pico, I'm not used to pico but I read the documentation and
> it seems correct, although the commands in slrn's editor are not the ones from
> pico and I'm not even able to type something good, I mean ctrl-k doesn't delete
> the line as done everywhere it just adds a "^k" in blue... I wonder how to use
> the editor, the doc doesn't talk much about the editor... Could I change it to
> emacs? That would be awesome!
I think the default SLRN editor is vi/elvis or something similar. My
personal preference is for something a bit easier on the mind, so Nano
(a GNU clone of Pico) is the ideal choice for me.
Defining the editor is just a matter of changing a line or two in
'slrn.rc' or '~/.slrnrc'. eg for Nano,
set editor_command "/usr/bin/nano +%d %s -t"
The '%d' refers to the starting line number, and '%s' represents the
filename, both of which are supplied by SLRN. The -t option instructs
Nano to save a changed buffer without prompting for a filename.
It's just a matter of finding the equivalent Emacs options, but I
shouldn't think you'll have too many problems.
It's also possible to define different editors for different tasks, all
of which are selected using the appropriate 'set ..._editor' line, same
syntax as above.
The SLRN documentation explains all of this much better than I do.
Regards.
--
Chiefy. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird, people take Prozac to make it normal.
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From: "Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k?
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 19:20:57 -0400
Hi, Chris! Thanks very much for your detailed reply. I'll go through your
notes carefully.
The reason I want to play safe is, it's one thing to tell the boss that "I
lost files because win2k crashed" and another to say that "I lost files
because I wanted to play with Linux." My new IT guy is actually pretty
smart (a rarity!) and he hates Linux. I'll see what I can do without getting
caught -- this is my first *paying* job, man! I'm just dying to try out
Linux. :)
"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brett wrote:
> >
> > Hi, all! I think I'm ready to succumb to the charms of Linux. But I'm
> > clueless. I've spent the last 3 hours searching for answers on the Web
but I
> > must say it's a real pain in the ass for a newbie like me to find
relevant
> > info about Linux.
> >
> > I hope someone can offer a straight answer to my question: Which Linux
> > distrubition should I get so I can run it from within Windows 2000
> > Professional?
>
> Any one of them will work.
>
> > I have a PC with standard parts (i.e., nothing fancy). Pentium III,
256MB of
> > RAM, three hard drives one of which is FAT32. Since I have tons of
> > important work saved across the three drives, ideally I'd like to
install
> > Linux as a Win2k application if possible. I.e., just launch Linux like
the
> > way one launches Word or Excel.
>
> There's such a thing, but I recommend the dual boot option, personally.
>
> > If this is not feasible, at the least I'd like to install Linux onto the
> > FAT32 drive without creating any partitions. Is this possible? I heard
> > that Corel Linux can do that, but it doesn't support Win2k. Which
> > distribution should I try, then?
>
> Don't try to install linux on FAT32. Linux uses its own filesystem,
> ext2, which is probably a lot better.
>
> > So -- don't laugh, please -- I'd like to play with Linux while
preserving
> > everything in Win2k.
>
> Clear off at least 2Gb of consecutive disk space either by defragmenting
> and repartitioning, or by moving your stuff completely off of one of the
> non-FAT32 drives.
>
> > I'm not a risk taker at this point, because I can't
> > afford to get fired from work for losing important files. My thinking is
if
> > I like Linux, I'll get a new computer and install both win2k and linux
on
> > it.
> >
> > Thanks a lot. Please cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if not inconvenient.
> > Thanks.
>
> Read this one quickly:
>
> http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue38/veselosky.html
>
> This one is too brief:
>
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html
>
> This way lets you load Linux using the NT/2000 boot loader:
>
> http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue61/padala.html
>
> However, if you've already installed 2000, linux distributions
> will generally let you load linux next, and have the LILO
> (linux loader) let you choose between NT and Linux at boot time.
>
> In any case, since you're worried about your data, you'd damn
> well better have backed the data up first! You'd do that if
> you had to totally reinstall Win 2000, wouldn't you?
>
> Anyway, hope this kickstarts you.
>
> Chris
>
>
> --
> Free the Software!
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From: Thomas SMETS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Xircom Pocket adaptor 10/100
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 23:21:56 GMT
I'm looking for some infos on how to install the XIRCOM pocket adapter
10/100 on a portable.
Distro is MDK 7.2 on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300.
Tx,
thomas,
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Thomas SMETS e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 16:41:49 -0700
From: Roger Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: xinetd and tftp
Comments below:
"Martin G. Diehl" wrote:
>
> I am working on a project to have linux running on some
> diskless workstations along with a server to supply file
> services.
>
> I have studied the DiskLess HowTo documents on this
> subject.
>
> I have a boot floppy with a boot loader for the installed
> NIC. I have another PC with RH 7.0 (complete
> installation -- all modules insalled), with NIC. The
> switching hub indicates that each NIC is recognized and
> initialized.
>
> The DiskLess HowTo documents cover installation and setup
> details using the programs boot, bootp, dhcp, and inetd.
>
If you need Bootp or DHCP services you can get the ISC DHCPD from
isc.org. I have it running and it works great for Bootp. This daemon by
default will not use xinetd so you don have too worry about any of that
configuration for it too run.
> As far as I can tell, fairly recently, RedHat began using
> xinetd as a replacement for inetd.
>
xinetd is the Extended inetd which uses additional config files in
/etc/xinetd.d instead of /etc/inetd.conf. More details can be found in
"man xinetd.conf".
> As a result, RedHat 7.0 does not use boot, bootp, dhcp,
> and inetd. Instead, it uses xinetd and bootparamd. The
> DiskLess HowTo documents that are part of the RH 7.0
> distribution are not up to date -- they explain the old
> setup using inetd, ...
>
Sorry can't help you with bootparamd as I don't use it.
> As part of the changeover to xinetd from inetd, many
> installation and tuning details have changed: program
> names, folders, configuration file names, and the content
> of the configuration files.
>
Again, man is your friend. "man xinetd" and "man xinetd.conf". If what
you are trying to do is get tftp working, take a look at
/etc/xinetd.d/tftp. This is the config file that controls whether or not
and how tftp will run. You will find by default that "disable=yes" is in
effect. If you want to use tftp you must change this too "disable=no".
BTW I also had too run tftp as root and the path to the default
directory (/tftpboot usually) must be correct and have the correct
permissions. There is also an updated tftpd on the Red Hat Rawhide
server. It is marked experimental in the man pages but it seems to fix a
few quirks that the Daemon delivered with 7.0 had. It also allows you to
correctly configure the Daemon to allow new files to be created if you
need that. I don't use this but I did test it and it works. Under the
delivered daemon you had to "touch" the file first (make it exist)
before you could dump files into the /tftpboot dir. if needed.
> I have been searching for a document that covers all of
> the configuration details when using xinetd to configure
> a diskless workstation: (file content, file name, and
> how to start and stop the various modules).
>
While I don't have any diskless workstations per say, I do use RH 7.0 to
Boot Serve 7 X Terminals. I use the ISC DHCPD to provide boot
configuration (name, IP, netmask, default bootfile) and once the
bootfile starts on the X Terminal it than uses tftp to download things
like Fonts, Color files, XDM manager, etc., from the same machine.
Works quite well actually. HTH, Roger A.
> Please suggest a reference that I can use.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Martin G. Diehl
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k?
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03 May 2001 19:51:22 -0400
"Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, all! I think I'm ready to succumb to the charms of Linux. But I'm
> clueless. I've spent the last 3 hours searching for answers on the Web but I
> must say it's a real pain in the ass for a newbie like me to find relevant
> info about Linux.
>
> I hope someone can offer a straight answer to my question: Which Linux
> distrubition should I get so I can run it from within Windows 2000
> Professional?
>
> I have a PC with standard parts (i.e., nothing fancy). Pentium III, 256MB of
> RAM, three hard drives one of which is FAT32. Since I have tons of
> important work saved across the three drives, ideally I'd like to install
> Linux as a Win2k application if possible. I.e., just launch Linux like the
> way one launches Word or Excel.
>
> If this is not feasible, at the least I'd like to install Linux onto the
> FAT32 drive without creating any partitions. Is this possible? I heard
> that Corel Linux can do that, but it doesn't support Win2k. Which
> distribution should I try, then?
>
> So -- don't laugh, please -- I'd like to play with Linux while preserving
> everything in Win2k. I'm not a risk taker at this point, because I can't
> afford to get fired from work for losing important files. My thinking is if
> I like Linux, I'll get a new computer and install both win2k and linux on
> it.
If you have the budget for a commercial license ($299 for the standard
distribution, or $329 with pre-installed SuSE Linux 6.3 and TurboLinux 6.0), or
would use it within the 30 day free evaluation period, you might want to check
out VMware (http://www.vmware.com), which allows you to run guest OSes within
either a Linux or a Windows NT/2000 environment. That would allow you to
install any Linux distribution and play with it, without disturbing your normal
Windows 2k environment. Since I've only used VMware running on a Linux host
(to run Windows apps), I can't say what the performance is for a Windows 2000
host. For the Linux host, performance is ok until you start to heavily stress
the disk (such as doing lengthy compiler builds). I do recall it wasn't
recomended if your processor was a couple of years old (200 Mhz, etc.).
Another thought is to buy a 4th disk, and get some IDE removable disk
cartridges, such as:
http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GN210
and phsyically swap the disks. That way nothing you do in Linux can affect
your Windows 2k environment (assuming you don't drop the disks and you take out
all of your Windows disks). I've also seen a setup that allows you to keep all
of the disks within the system, and there is a toggle switch to switch disks
that is explicitly for multiple OSes. Obviously with 3 disks already in the
system, you may not have room for another.
There have been Linuxes in the past that installed/ran under Windows, but I
don't recall any more details. Also, I suspect that many of them may have only
run under Windows 95/98/ME, and wouldn't run under NT/2k/XP due to the later
having more security.
--
Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc. (GCC group)
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +1 978-486-9304
Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: +1 978-692-4482
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From: "Bi0ThiC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k?
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 00:54:24 +0100
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
In article <gJlI6.8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brett"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You might want look at this website and see if this suits your problem
http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop/ws_specs_win.html
With this program , you're able to run linux from inside windows2000
(slower, though )
Note that this is commercial software but you are able to try it for 30
days.
--
"I keep trying to tell my boss that no, Satan is a tool of Linux, not the
other way around." by Anonymous
Bi0ThiC'S Productions �2001 Em@il - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove NOSPAM)
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From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: RedHat7.1 on 2nd physical hard drive
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:02:24 +1000
I have tried your suggestion, and more .... but still get the same error
messages.
i.e I have created separate "/boot" at hdb1, (still get warning & fatal
messages),
and when "/boot" at hda1, the same fatal error.
The aim now is to overcome the fatal error... where is RH7-1 imposing the
1024 cylinder limit ??
is it on the first HDD or the 2nd HDD ? If it's on the first, then it may
be my setup issue with othe OSes...
but if it's on the 2nd HDD first 1024 cylinder, then I cannot see any logic
to RH7-1 Fatal error (reason: 2nd HDD was completely free - unallocated
before the install).
KW wrote in message ...
>you should try making a boot partition on that drive separate from / and
>everyhting else. 20 MB should be sufficient...
>
>/boot /dev/hbb1 20 MB
>/ /dev/hdb6 Everything except swap and boot
>swap /dev/hdb5 whatever suits you
>
>In article <6ifI6.780$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alex"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Simplifying a previously complicated posting, can someone please tell me
>> why the following messages have appeared during an install of linux to
>> the second hard drive (this message appears only after the all the files
>> are copied - 99% to completion of install):
>>
>> Warning: /dev/hdb1 is not on the first disk. Warning: device 0X0302
>> exceeds 1024 cylinder limit. Fatal: geo_comp_addr cylinder number is too
>> big 2028>1023
>>
>> Note: during install Lilo was selected to install on hdb1 not in MBR. I
>> do not want Lilo to overwrite my 3rd party boot loader in MBR. hda1,
>> hda2 contain Win OSes.
>>
>> I have seen countless postings that make mention about lilo overcoming
>> the "1st hard disk limitation" and "1024 cylinder limit". But does this
>> apply to deployment on 2nd physical HDD ??
>>
>> Can someone confirm that this is indeed one of redhat's limitation (i.e
>> for 2nd HDD) ?? ...so that I can stop my 12th attempt of installing
>> linux ! As with Anthony Cook's posting, all How To's seem only to refer
>> to installing on other partitions, not separate HDD. Thanks all.
>>
>>
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From: Alberto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partionless installation
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 01:08:22 +0100
Has anyone got any experience with the Red Hat partitionless
installation? Is it really slow?
Would it be even under a 933MHz computer (I suppose that if it makes it
access the drive a lot, the processor speed wouldn't help ...)
thanks a lot
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From: moonie ;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:03:46 -0400
On Thu, 03 May 2001, Brett wrote:
>Hi, Chris! Thanks very much for your detailed reply. I'll go through your
>notes carefully.
>
>The reason I want to play safe is, it's one thing to tell the boss that "I
>lost files because win2k crashed" and another to say that "I lost files
>because I wanted to play with Linux." My new IT guy is actually pretty
>smart (a rarity!) and he hates Linux. I'll see what I can do without getting
>caught -- this is my first *paying* job, man! I'm just dying to try out
>Linux. :)
Honestly how smart can he be if he hates Linux. Chances are he just won't take
the time to learn it. I am an IT guy and I hate Winblows (use it some because
I have to).
moonie ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: Mail and news client
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 00:10:02 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 03 May 2001 20:34:43 GMT, Simon Lemieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried slrn and got some trouble out of the editor... I've read somewhere that
> it's supposed to be pico, I'm not used to pico but I read the documentation and
> it seems correct, although the commands in slrn's editor are not the ones from
> pico and I'm not even able to type something good, I mean ctrl-k doesn't delete
> the line as done everywhere it just adds a "^k" in blue... I wonder how to use
> the editor, the doc doesn't talk much about the editor... Could I change it to
> emacs? That would be awesome!
>
>From the slrn.rc file included in the slrn source code distribution:
% Command used to invoke editor. In the following example, %s represents
% the file name and %d represents the starting line number
%set editor_command "jed '%s' -g %d -tmp"
%set editor_command "pico -t +%d '%s'"
Just set the "editor_command" variable to whatever you want.
--
Frank Hahn
Show respect for age. Drink good Scotch for a change.
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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: Continuing Network Problem
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 10:25:50 +1000
Hi!,
> Okay this is where I stand... Debian Potato... (2.2.18)
>
> I am currently just testing using a crossover cable and one WIN98SE
> machine.
>
> I now can connect to my Win98SE machine if I use a static IP.
> But I want to be able to force all of these settings with the exception of
> HOST Name (eg. WIN98) through DHCP requests from other machines within the
> home network.
Okay, I am just interested how you are going to separate your IP address from
the hostname. Normally an IP address has a hostname allocated to it, so I am
not sure how you can allocate an IP address without allocating a hostname as
well.
> My Windows 98 Machine cannot currently get on the internet through the
> Linux box. (Open up Mozilla and get a web page or get email or use ICQ or
> IRC or Telnet) I can ping... and resolve the name to an address, but it
> times out on all ping requests (except ping 192.168.1.1)
> On the Windows machine, I can only get ping, FTP, Telnet and WWW from the
> machine 192.168.1.1
>
> On the Linux machine I can do everything... surf the net, irc, and telnet.
> I can make hits to both the internet as well as my home network.
>
> I am getting very frustrated. I know I am very close... but yet... so very
> far away. If I am missing anything... which I hope I am not... just tell me
> and I will post it right away.
[...]
Your configuration looks good and the ip forwarding for Debian is enabled and
I presume that the appropriate ip forwarding script that debian uses was
executed. Just one quick question, what does your ipchains look like on the
box. Is there a MASQ'ing entry for the 192.168.1.0 network. There should be
a line like this being executed somewhere:
/sbin/ipchains -A forward -i ppp0 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j MASQ
^^^^ ---> This looks like your external
interface
It looks like everything is working, just that the Linux box doesn't know to
forward the packets from the internal interface to the external ppp
interface. Additionally, is there anyway to confirm that the box is actually
performing IP forwarding ?
Under Redhat it can be done by taking a look at the value in
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ?
It would also be interesting to see the output of your ipchains command.
See ya
Dean Thompson
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From: "DMcBee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Can't telnet into RH box from Windows 98 laptop (telnetd[27627]: ttloop:
peer died: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:37:20 -0400
I'd go to the windows update website and get all of the updates/fixes to
update your lap first.
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
Drew M
"Kenny McCormack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9csg4l$dtg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have an RH 6.something box that works just fine - has been working just
> fine for over a year. I just recently acquired a standard issue laptop
> running Windows 98, but I've found that I can't telnet from the laptop to
> the RH box. When I use a(ny) telnet client on the Windows machine, it
> connects and then hangs. In the RH box, in /var/log/messages, appears the
> following:
>
> telnetd[27627]: ttloop: peer died: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or
wide character
>
> I can telnet into the RH box from other systems with no problems, but not
> from this laptop.
>
> Anyone seen this before? Is there a fix? Should I be posting this in a
> Windows NG (since it actually sounds like a Windows problem)...
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From: "Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k?
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:55:12 -0400
He hates Linux because he used to work at Bell Labs on their internal
version of Unix. No kidding. I have a lot of respect for him but some people
are just too prejudiced.
I was a Mac guy for many years. After school I was forced to convert to
Windows. But I actually like Windows 2000 a lot -- definitely won't go back
to Mac again. I use Excel for financial spreadsheeting most of the time,
but occasionally write Java programs for our internal projects. I'm
thinking of playing with Linux because my friends say "smart people" :)
should use Unix/Linux.
Cheers!
<moonie>; ")" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 03 May 2001, Brett wrote:
> >Hi, Chris! Thanks very much for your detailed reply. I'll go through
your
> >notes carefully.
> >
> >The reason I want to play safe is, it's one thing to tell the boss that
"I
> >lost files because win2k crashed" and another to say that "I lost files
> >because I wanted to play with Linux." My new IT guy is actually pretty
> >smart (a rarity!) and he hates Linux. I'll see what I can do without
getting
> >caught -- this is my first *paying* job, man! I'm just dying to try out
> >Linux. :)
>
> Honestly how smart can he be if he hates Linux. Chances are he just won't
take
> the time to learn it. I am an IT guy and I hate Winblows (use it some
because
> I have to).
>
> moonie ;)
>
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From: "Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k?
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:57:29 -0400
Thanks, Michael (and Bi0Thic). I'll give VMWare a look. Too bad it's not
free.
Buying a removable disk seems a good idea. I'll look into it. I assume
most distributions (including Redhat) will be able to work with removable
media?
"Michael Meissner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hi, all! I think I'm ready to succumb to the charms of Linux. But I'm
> > clueless. I've spent the last 3 hours searching for answers on the Web
but I
> > must say it's a real pain in the ass for a newbie like me to find
relevant
> > info about Linux.
> >
> > I hope someone can offer a straight answer to my question: Which Linux
> > distrubition should I get so I can run it from within Windows 2000
> > Professional?
> >
> > I have a PC with standard parts (i.e., nothing fancy). Pentium III,
256MB of
> > RAM, three hard drives one of which is FAT32. Since I have tons of
> > important work saved across the three drives, ideally I'd like to
install
> > Linux as a Win2k application if possible. I.e., just launch Linux like
the
> > way one launches Word or Excel.
> >
> > If this is not feasible, at the least I'd like to install Linux onto the
> > FAT32 drive without creating any partitions. Is this possible? I heard
> > that Corel Linux can do that, but it doesn't support Win2k. Which
> > distribution should I try, then?
> >
> > So -- don't laugh, please -- I'd like to play with Linux while
preserving
> > everything in Win2k. I'm not a risk taker at this point, because I can't
> > afford to get fired from work for losing important files. My thinking is
if
> > I like Linux, I'll get a new computer and install both win2k and linux
on
> > it.
>
> If you have the budget for a commercial license ($299 for the standard
> distribution, or $329 with pre-installed SuSE Linux 6.3 and TurboLinux
6.0), or
> would use it within the 30 day free evaluation period, you might want to
check
> out VMware (http://www.vmware.com), which allows you to run guest OSes
within
> either a Linux or a Windows NT/2000 environment. That would allow you to
> install any Linux distribution and play with it, without disturbing your
normal
> Windows 2k environment. Since I've only used VMware running on a Linux
host
> (to run Windows apps), I can't say what the performance is for a Windows
2000
> host. For the Linux host, performance is ok until you start to heavily
stress
> the disk (such as doing lengthy compiler builds). I do recall it wasn't
> recomended if your processor was a couple of years old (200 Mhz, etc.).
>
> Another thought is to buy a 4th disk, and get some IDE removable disk
> cartridges, such as:
>
> http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GN210
>
> and phsyically swap the disks. That way nothing you do in Linux can
affect
> your Windows 2k environment (assuming you don't drop the disks and you
take out
> all of your Windows disks). I've also seen a setup that allows you to
keep all
> of the disks within the system, and there is a toggle switch to switch
disks
> that is explicitly for multiple OSes. Obviously with 3 disks already in
the
> system, you may not have room for another.
>
> There have been Linuxes in the past that installed/ran under Windows, but
I
> don't recall any more details. Also, I suspect that many of them may have
only
> run under Windows 95/98/ME, and wouldn't run under NT/2k/XP due to the
later
> having more security.
>
> --
> Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc. (GCC group)
> PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
> Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +1 978-486-9304
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