Linux-Setup Digest #181, Volume #21               Mon, 7 May 01 08:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Drive Partitions ("A. Smith")
  Re: NT 4 and RH 6.2 dualboot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Drive Partitions ("Tom Wilson")
  Re: vga = ask (Faux_Pseudo)
  Re: ftp login delay from proxy (Dean Thompson)
  Re: Drive Partitions (Dean Thompson)
  Re: Installing windows and linux ("Eric")
  Re: FTP??? (Harri Haataja)
  Re: FTP??? (John Thompson)
  using xcdroast .98alpha8 and got 'blank' CDs after burn ("Glitch")
  How to setup a distribution (Helmut Jarausch)
  Re: Stop GNOME!? ("Duane Healing")
  Re: Loading modules (Stephen Rank)
  Re: How to setup a distribution ("Eric")
  Carolyn Meinel ("the-weirs")
  Download Time ("the-weirs")
  2.4.4 + root raid + Swiming with the fishes (G)
  Re: NT 4 and RH 6.2 dualboot ("Eric")
  Enlightenment needs fnlib???? (Chuck Lalli)
  Re: Drive Partitions (pip)

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From: "A. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Drive Partitions
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 00:57:29 -0700


I am trying to install Mandrake on a booty (lame) computer, and I get a
bizarre error after seting up hard drive partions:
"Not enough swap space for install."
What does that mean? Does anybody know?
The machine only has 16 MG or Ram, is that why?
Any help would be apreciated.

Andrew Smith                            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Software Developer                      http://catalyst.washington.edu
Educational Technology Group            http://depts.washington.edu/edtec
University of Washington                http://www.washington.edu


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NT 4 and RH 6.2 dualboot
Date: 7 May 2001 08:12:22 GMT

Jon Sjostedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a machine with a 10GB SCSI/drive. I have NT4 installed "first"
> with NTLoader in the MBR and NTFS filesystem. I also have RH 6.2 on 
> SDA6 (all linuxpartitions below cyl 1024, checked with fdisk in linux)
> with LILO in partitionroot.

I've almost the same things, this is my lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/hda
prompt
default=linux
read-only
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b

other=/dev/hda1
        label=win
        table=/dev/hda

image=/boot/linux-2.4.0
        label=linux
        root=/dev/hda3

Davide

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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Drive Partitions
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 08:14:13 GMT


"A. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I am trying to install Mandrake on a booty (lame) computer, and I get a
> bizarre error after seting up hard drive partions:
> "Not enough swap space for install."
> What does that mean? Does anybody know?
> The machine only has 16 MG or Ram, is that why?
> Any help would be apreciated.

16 Meg of RAM IS a bit small....
How large a swap partition are you making?





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Faux_Pseudo)
Subject: Re: vga = ask
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 08:15:30 GMT

this is a form letter response i have created because
of the frequancey that this question comes up.

set vga=xxx in /etc/lilo.conf to one of the following

       Colours 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 1600x1200 
       --------+---------------------------------------------
       256     |  769    771      773      775      796
       32,768  |  784    787      790      793      797
       65,536  |  785    788      791      794      798
       16.8M   |  786    789      792      795      799

>From the Vesafb mini-HOWTO

it is also recomended that in lilo.conf you creat a duplicate
entry for use with apps that dont handle framebuffers like quake
and use vga=ask ie

image = /vmlinuz
        root = /dev/hda1
        label = linux
        vga = 788
image = /vmlinuz
        root = /dev/hda1
        label = quake
        vga=ask

a word on 16M colors 
things like ofbis and as a result things that run under it such as zen will 
not work with the 16M color mode
kick it down to 65k and they will still work

--(Once apon a time, in comp.os.linux.setup,)--
                --([EMAIL PROTECTED] said it like only they can.)--
> This works fine when I'm prompted to scan and then pick a number, but
> I'm damned if I can reinstall lilo with that number in lilo.conf and
> get the thing to work! All I get is a message saying I used an
> unrecognised mode, or some such. The mode I'm after has value 0122 and
> equates to a 100x30 screen. Can anybody advise where I'm going wrong?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> H


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GUI's are for slackers.  ibpconf.sh 6.1 on freshmeat.net  
The easiest way to customize the command line.  By Faux_Pseudo

It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word.
        - Andrew Jackson

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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ftp login delay from proxy
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 18:15:18 +1000


Hi!,

> A small number of my [human] clients, including myself, are experiencing
> login delays of nearly 30 seconds when attempting to login to wu-ftpd.
> The [ftp] clients vary from Unix to Windoze ftp client applications.
> 
> The delay occurs between the connect and the initial 220 message (after
> which the ftp client typically displays the login prompt) If telnet is
> used to telnet into the same server, no delay is seen.  Nor, was one
> seen with the stock ftpd that came with the RedHat 7,0 installation.  If
> one (experiencing this problem) uses telnet to connect with the ftp port
> (21) 30 seconds elapses before the 220 ftp server message is returned.
> 
[...]

> I've read other newsgroup posts that suggest wu-ftpd differs from the
> stock RH ftpd by performing an ident lookup on the incoming IP address.
> I've also read posts that suggest adding the -I server parameter to the
> /etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd script disables the ident lookups on login.
> However, my own testing suggests that the delay still occurs, under the
> above-mentioned scenario, even when the -I parameter is specified.

Make sure that you restart the xinetd server after you have made the changes
to the serviced description file.
> 
> wu-ftpd logs login attempts to syslog.  It does not, however, log
> connects.  I cannot determine from the logs what is going on during the
> 30-second interval.  Does anyone know a means by increasing the log
> output of wu-ftpd, so I can determine what is going on?  Or perhaps,
> someone already understands why this delay is incurred, and what I might
> do to correct this at the server end.
> 
> I really dislike having to ask my clients to change something in their
> proxy configuration, just to correct this delay, when they don't report
> seeing it from other sites or servers.

If you are still looking for work-arounds to the problem you can either
implement a DNS server to perform lookups for you, or you might want to enter
in the information into the /etc/hosts file if that is possible.  If both of
these are impossible to perform and you are not blocking identd requests, then
you might like to do a recompile of wu-ftpd and tell it not to do any DNS or
incoming connection validation tests.  There are a number of web sites out and
about which explain how you can disable DNS support in wu-ftpd through the
source code.

See ya

Dean Thompson

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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Drive Partitions
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 18:36:34 +1000


Hi Andrew,

> I am trying to install Mandrake on a booty (lame) computer, and I get a
> bizarre error after seting up hard drive partions:
> "Not enough swap space for install."
> What does that mean? Does anybody know?
> The machine only has 16 MG or Ram, is that why?
> Any help would be apreciated.

I think you will find that 16Mb of ram is reasonably small for the later
installs of Redhat and Mandrake.  I know that as Mandrake and Redhat have
developed, so has the footprint of the install program as well.

You might like to either try and find another 16Mb of memory, or possibly
install an earlier version of Redhat or Mandrake.  Increasing your swap space
size during the install might also help you out.  For 16Mb of memory, you will
want at least 32Mb of swap space (I would even go higher).

See ya

Dean Thompson

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| MONASH (Caulfield Campus)  | Fax     - +61 3 9903 1077                  |
| Melbourne, Australia       |                                            |
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing windows and linux
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:58:12 +0200

>   I will need, in a near future, to compile for the Windows platform.
I've
> decided since I'm going to reinstall my distribution anyway to arrange the
> partitions on my HD.  I have 2 hard disks, one for the system and windows
and
> the other will hold my /home and /usr/local for linux...  The second HD
(hdc)
> should be left untouched by Windows and it should only be installed on the
first

That I cannot control.
Depends on the partitiontable of that disk.
(And you haven't showed it)

> partition of my hda.
>
> Here is what I'm probably going to do:
>
> Abstract from fdisk /*
> Command (m for help): p
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 784 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
>    Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/hda1   *         1       262   2104483+   b  Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hda2           263       328    530145   82  Linux swap
> /dev/hda3           329       784   3662820   83  Linux
>
> Command (m for help): v
> 62 unallocated sectors

That's correct (cyl0 - MBR)

> Command (m for help):
> */
>
> hda1 is my Windows partition of 2G (2048M).  I think I need it to be
bootable,
> but I'm unsure if it's necessary.

Depends on your bootloader.
I don't think windows cares. (It will set it bootable by default)

> Also unsure about the kind of partition to
> make FAT32 vs FAT16?

What FS do you want to use.
win98 will use FAT32 as FS, NT by default doesn't understand FAT32
and would use FAT16 (or NTFS ofcourse)

> LBA? What to do?

I suppose you mean type c etc.
They're not required here, as the partition is under cyl. 1024

> hda2 is my Swap partition of 512M (I know it's big, but I like it this
way...)

It should meet your requirements.
I don't care.

> hda3 is my main linux partition will hold all that is not my personnal
files and
> is about (6.4G - 2.5G = 3.9G), which is more than enough... Maybe I should
push
> this windows partion a gig higher... anyway, those things are details...
>
> I'm just looking to know if this will work for the installation?  I'm
planning
> on reseting the partition map,

delete the whole table you mean?

> reboot, install windows, reboot, install Redhat

Ah, that's why. Windows may indeed ignore the partitiontable anyway.

> 7.1 and then settle down for awhile...  What do you think of this?  Will
windows
> delete my partition table (as it often did when I tried before...)?

probably it will do so again.
It appears that OEM windows-CD's (often/always?) ignore existing
partitiontables.
If it ignored it before, it's not going to respect it this time.

Eric



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.security,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: FTP???
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 09:01:07 GMT

Raphael Quoilin wrote:
>dubcaller wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>> However, using different ports provides better security.
>
>Why? 

Smells like a troll..

-- 
Integrating Cyberspace into our Moral Universe:
        http://securityportal.com/kfiles/files/totemtaboo.html


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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: FTP???
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 20:56:08 -0500

Raphael Quoilin wrote:
 
> dubcaller wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > However, using different ports provides better security.
 
> Why?

Security through obscurity, I imagine.  Nothing to put a great
deal of confidence in, in any case.

-- 


-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: using xcdroast .98alpha8 and got 'blank' CDs after burn
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 03:36:08 -0400

hi,

I just downloaded the newest version of Xcdroast. I had to get cdrecord
1.9 as well.

I can make an image just fine. I add the image as a track to be written
to a cdrw and then Istart the write process. It finishes fine and
finalizes the CD however when I mount teh disc I get an empty directory
listing.

If I attempt to get the CD info using Xcdroast, after a burn, I'm told
there is indeed one track on the disc and the right amount of space is
reportedbut yet I don't see anything with 'ls'...I'm writing the track as
a combination Rock Ridge + Joliet filesystem and im padding the tracks
which is a default setting.

Anyone know what's going on?
thanks
brandon

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From: Helmut Jarausch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to setup a distribution
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 12:31:19 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I would prefer to get independent of any distribution.
Are there any docs (or books) which show how so setup one's own?
I have no problems in building a kernel, gcc, glibc, X11  but I am
still missing a sort of dependency graph.
E.g. recently I tried to install glibc-2.2.3 and couldn't log into
the rebooted system anymore since probable login couldn't load
a given shared library. So I probably need a list of which depends
on what.

Many thanks for a hint,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
Institute of Technology, RWTH Aachen
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stop GNOME!?
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 03:53:05 -0700

The program you're looking for is called gdm. The configuration file for
it is called "gdm.conf". On my Debian system it lives in /etc/gdm, but
for Red Hat it may be different.

In any case, you can go through it and change lots of stuff, but
specifically for the logo on boot take a look at the line that starts with
"Logo=" in the [greeter] section.

--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs

In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "professor bikey bike"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flailed at the keyboard thusly:
> I just installed RHL 7.1, and when I run Xwindows, it automatically
> sends me to the GNOME login screen.  I have managed to get it so that
> instead running GNOME, once I log in, I go to Enlightenment, but just as
> a matter of principle, I would rather have my login screen not display
> the GNOME login screen graphics...I have searched wide and far for the
> file that is doing this, but I can't find it.  Any help? Thanks in
> advance
> --
>

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From: Stephen Rank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Loading modules
Date: 07 May 2001 12:03:54 +0100

Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[ ... ]
> When I do a kernel rebuild, and 'make modules' the modules
> are compiled, but not moved to /lib/modules/2.2.16/...
> Do I have to move them manually?  

Not quite: all you need is `make modules_install', and all the copying
will happen by magic.

HTH,

Stephen

-- 
989233375

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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to setup a distribution
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:20:55 +0200

> I would prefer to get independent of any distribution.
> Are there any docs (or books) which show how so setup one's own?
> I have no problems in building a kernel, gcc, glibc, X11  but I am
> still missing a sort of dependency graph.
> E.g. recently I tried to install glibc-2.2.3 and couldn't log into
> the rebooted system anymore since probable login couldn't load
> a given shared library. So I probably need a list of which depends
> on what.
>

What you are looking for is called: linuxfromscratch

(www.linuxfromscratch.org)

Eric



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From: "the-weirs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Carolyn Meinel
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:21:25 +0100

Yo L*nux D()()DZ!
I mentioned her in my first post to this NG but those who replied didnt
notice that, though still the replies were, as always, much appreciated. I
just wanted to know if any of you Linux fans out there knew who she actually
is. If none of you do then I can forward a new post containing some of her
works (it will come in an attachment) and a short lecture on who she is and
her importance to many nerdy and not-so-nerdy teenagers like me. RSPV soon
(remember how appreciative I am) and maybe one day I'll RSVP you, eh?
C Ya L*nux D()()DZ |:-)|=(=|<=<[-]
MONOPOLY >
OVER AND OUT!




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From: "the-weirs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Download Time
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:28:02 +0100

Why Oh Why (not Delilah) does it take soo incredibly long to download some
of these flaves of L*nux and How Oh How can I prevent my ISP (NTL (Its
completely free)) from disconnecting me which it does if I'm on for 2 hours
even when not at all idle. Remember I am still not on L*nux (Still on
Microcrap Wind()ze Me). Help is much appreciated.
CYA L*nux  D()()DZ
MONOPOLY
OVER AND OUT.



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From: G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.4.4 + root raid + Swiming with the fishes
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:29:23 -0400

I'm using 2.4.4 with my root partition on a raid0 array using the HPT370 
chipset support and the latest raidtools. 

My sound is via the es1371 module which i've used for over a year without a 
problem.

My boot disk is a small 3.2G drive with /var, swap, an emergency root and 
Grub on it.

The raid0 partitions are autodetected by the kernel and work great. The 
only problem is when i come to play sound while using a /dev/md device as 
root. Even slight cpu utilization from any other process causes crackles 
and skips in the sound, like its suddenly playing from under water. When i 
boot with my emergency hd partition as root, mount the /dev/md partitions, 
and symlink all the / directory's, (barring proc and dev), the sound is 
perfect.

It sounds (literally) like the soundcard has 0 priority, but i'm at a real 
loss as to where this problem stems from.

I've tried everything i could think of, like leaving /dev mounted on a 
single harddisk incase the software raid was needed before a process could 
send anything to a md dev node, meaning it would have some lag, but nothing 
works.

If anyone has any idea what could cause this / what i could try / where i 
could find help I would appreciate it.

Thanks and Kind Regards

Gav


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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NT 4 and RH 6.2 dualboot
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:46:37 +0200

> I have a machine with a 10GB SCSI/drive. I have NT4 installed "first" with
NTLoader in the MBR and NTFS filesystem.

It's not in the MBR. It's in the bootsector of  NT's C:\ partition

> I also have RH 6.2 on SDA6 (all linuxpartitions below cyl 1024, checked
with fdisk in linux) with LILO in partitionroot.

Only /boot should be below cyl. 1024. And I don't know if SCSI also suffers
from this.

> Now i boot from a disk created at install.

Okay, that's a good thing. At least the install was successfull.

> But i would like to have some kind of dualboot with the NT loader.

That's possible.

> I have tried most tips given here, like dd if=/dev/hda6 of=linux.bin
bs=512 count=1.

What does your lilo.conf look like?

> Also same thing with the linuxbootfloppy.

What do you mean with this?
You copied the bootsector from the floppy and wanted to use that?
That won't work with a typical RH bootfloppy. The bootsector expects to find
a kernel
on the floppy.

> This just dont work. May it depend on the NTFS?

No, the FS windows uses is irrelevant here.

> Can tell me any way to solve this (perhaps with LILO in MBR)?

That's an option (I prefer it by the way)
Show me your lilo.conf and I'll show you the options you have.
(and your partitiontable, `/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sda`)

PS. you have a SCSI only system? or do you have a mixed IDE/SCSI system?

Eric



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From: Chuck Lalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Enlightenment needs fnlib????
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 11:59:04 GMT

I am trying to install enlightenment but it says I need fnlib and 
libFnlib.sh.o (or similar).  I have searched for this but can find no 
references to it at all.  Can anyone help me ?

Chuck

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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Drive Partitions
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:03:35 +0100

One million Linux groups cross-post alert :)

"A. Smith" wrote:
> 
> I am trying to install Mandrake on a booty (lame) computer, and I get a
> bizarre error after seting up hard drive partions:
> "Not enough swap space for install."
> What does that mean? 

It means that the partition (if you have) set aside for Linux hard disk
swap space is not enough. Try allowing 256mb, which may seem a lot, but
you only have 16mb RAM.

You could make your life easier by buying 128MB extra at least. If RAM
is as cheap where you live as where I live at the moment then that would
be on my shopping list.

If you are using your box as a network box then 16 MB may be ok, but as
a desktop you will find the performance lacking.

HTH

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