Linux-Setup Digest #185, Volume #21 Tue, 8 May 01 05:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Mandrake 8 freezes during install (NEWBIE) ("Cold Fusion")
Re: Memory (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Xfree86 and Presario 1600 (webmaster)
Re: gtkam/gphoto2 library not found (Carmine F. Greco)
mouse problem (mike)
/boot/message - howto create (Paul Lew)
Partitiong question (Bill Courtney)
Best Distributions? (Errol Dunlap)
kernel 2.4.4 and sftp freeze my box (Simonz)
Re: Installing Debian on a Abit VP6 w/ ATA100 drives (Nader)
Re: Steps to upgrade to kernel 2.4. (Nader)
Re: kernel 2.4.4 and sftp freeze my box (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Installing windows and linux ("Eric")
Re: Partitiong question ("Eric")
Re: /boot/message - howto create ("Eric")
Re: anyone have solution install RH7.1 on 16M RAM (Walter Dnes)
Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k? (Michael Meissner)
Bootdisk (Scott Wilson)
A little Help ("Ryan")
understanding how a kernel was built (extracting its config). ("Massimo Pinto")
Re: understanding how a kernel was built (extracting its config). (Robert Horton)
Re: Magic partition on linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
some NFS mounted dir and files are 'invisible'?? (Simone)
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From: "Cold Fusion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake 8 freezes during install (NEWBIE)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:08:52 -0400
Trying to install Mandrake 8 on a separate, clean drive. The install always
locks up at the 30% mark, regardless of which package. Tried graph, low-res
graph, AND text install, same thing. HELP!
PII 233
64MB RAM
2 x 6GB Quantum Bigfoot hard drives
Hitachi GVD-2000 2x DVD drive
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Memory
Date: 7 May 2001 23:36:02 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rasmus B�g Hansen wrote:
> You need to add the line 'append = mem=128Mb' to lilo.conf and rerun
> lilo (replace the 128Mb with your amount of memory).
If you don't want to do this (e.g., you don't use LILO to boot), you could
try a newer kernel (2.2.19 or 2.4.4); these have smarter memory-detection
methods.
--
Paul Kimoto
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hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (webmaster)
Subject: Re: Xfree86 and Presario 1600
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 03:37:10 GMT
>> I have a Compaq presario laptop 1600 and I can't configure X.
>> I have XFree86 4.01.
>>
>> I have tried a lot of configuration but I always obtain a white screen.
>> I have been said that the file on
>> http://www.unm.edu/~tdropps/xconfig.htm, but it did not worked.
>This will place a new XF86Config file in your root directory. Edit the
>mouse section to make it look like the one at the URL you mentioned. Then
>test it like the screen said to do. You did write down that instruction,
>didn't you?
>
>When you have it working, copy the file to /etc/X11/XF86Config
>
I have exactly the same problem with a Presario 1200.
Will the rpm file(s) mentioned also work with Redhat?
TIA
Peter
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Subject: Re: gtkam/gphoto2 library not found
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carmine F. Greco)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 03:43:01 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
e.com>:
>On Sun, 06 May 2001 22:54:24 GMT,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I've installed gphoto2 (and the required libgpio) and when I try
>>to run the gtkam front end, I get:
>>
>>gtkam: error while loading shared libraries: libgphoto2.so.0: cannot
>>load shared object file: No such file or directory
>>
>>libgphoto2.so.0 is in /usr/local/lib and points to libgphoto2.so.0.0.0
>>which is there.
>>
>>What's going on?
>
>I looked at man pages for keywords "shared" and "library" and saw ldd.
>
>I did $ ldd /usr/local/lib/libgphoto2.so.0
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40079000)
> libgphoto2_port.so.0 => not found
> libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x4007d000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000)
>
>However libgphoto2_port.so.0 is there in /usr/local/lib and points to
>version 0.0.3
>
I had to add two directories to LD_LIBRARY_PATH to get gtkam to run. The
first was <gphoto2_home>/.libs where libgphoto2.so.0 was on my machine, and
the second was something like <gphoto_home>/libgphoto2_port/.libs.
Hope that helps.
Carmine
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mouse problem
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 23:25:19 -0400
I'm a Linux newbie trying to install Red Hat 7.1
I had everything installed and working, including my mouse and
X-windows, except my Netgear ethernet card. I learned it was probably
not compatible so I replaced it with the Netgear FA301TX card. Then I
installed the new ethernet card which was picked up by the auto detect.
I believe the card was working, but then my mouse wouldn't. Each time
during the Linux load, it would say seaching for new hardware, then a
window pops up that says that my generic PS/2 mouse was removed. I
reinstalled the system, and the same thing happened. I removed the
Netgear card and still the same problem. In Win2k, the mouse is labelled
as a Logitec PS/2 port mouse. I am able to use Linux, just not a mouse,
and therefore not X-windows. What am I doing wrong?
I'm a dumb newbie so please explain in idiot's terms (I'm also an
idiot.) Anyone with a suggestion, e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
respond on this NG. Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: /boot/message - howto create
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 04:17:43 GMT
When SuSE 7.1 was installed, the /boot/message created is 65688; the lilo
version is 21.6.
After updating lilo to 21.7.x, the error msg on running lilo is that
the /boot/message file is greater than 65535 (as per the man lilo.conf).
I now have reverted back to 21.6 (suse's version?) so that the new kernel(s)
may be created and "added" to lilo.conf.
Now, how do I create/change another "message" and/or what app can I use
to "see" the /boot/message file?????
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From: Bill Courtney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partitiong question
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 17:16:56 -1000
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Aloha kakou,
I have seen many allusions to this, but never blurted out. Can both the
ext2 and swap partitions be in an extended partition? If so, are there
any gotchas to look out for?
If possible, please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mahalo no,
Bill
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<p><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica"><font color="#3333FF">I have seen many
allusions to this, but never blurted out. Can both the ext2 and swap partitions
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From: Errol Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Best Distributions?
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:30:36 -0500
I'm thinking about starting a linux server, which is the better of the
distributions? I want to setup a network of about 3-4 machines.
i like Suse, but want to be sure before i go and buy the software.
thanks.
ed
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From: Simonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel 2.4.4 and sftp freeze my box
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:59:55 +0700
hi there, i installed kernel 2.4.4 and using sftp.
my box always freeze when i tried to upload using sftp.
it just freeze and i can't see anything.
i currently have these in my box:
- modutils 2.4.5
- openssh 2.5.2p1 (i tried 2.9p1)
- egcs-2.91.66
- dlink ethernet card with realtek chip (8139too v0.9.16)
when i downgrade my kernel to 2.4.3 it works just fine.
somebody help?
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From: Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Debian on a Abit VP6 w/ ATA100 drives
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 22:46:19 -0700
Try booting the install kernel by passing it parameters. I did this to
get my install to see my UDMA66 drive. Once my 2.2.10 kernel was stable,
I upgraded the kernel to 2.4. Since UDMA66 support was built in this
kernel, I no longer had to pass kernel parameters on every boot.
See Enabling HPT366 without UDMA/66 support in
http://linux.nf/ultra66.htm.
John De Ryckere wrote:
> Hi, I'm trying to install Debian Potato on an Abit VP6. All of the
> drives on it are ATA100, there's a Windows 2K disk, a digital
> video disk and a disk I want to install debian linux on.
>
> The drive I want to install on would be /dev/hde. When I insert
> the installation CD and reboot it can only see /dev/hda, which is
> my windows partition.
>
> I've tried making a boot floppy (a few times, a few different floppies)
> from the udma66 kernel but it doesn't work for me. Every boot from
> the floppy just hangs before even apparently starting the boot process.
>
> I've done some searching on groups.google.com and it looks like I'm
> stuck for the moment. If I swapped /dev/hda with /dev/hde I probably
> could do an install if I could get the udma66 boot floppy working.
>
> Does anybody have any advice?
>
> John
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From: Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade to kernel 2.4.
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 22:47:33 -0700
Take a look at the response I gave to "Installing Debian on a Abit VP6 w/
ATA100 drives"
gataway wrote:
> I'm totally new to linux, i bought RH7 trying to install it but failed.
> I found out that it's my ATA100 PCI card that is giving me the problem,
> after much research i was told that i need to upgrade to the lastest
> kernel to get it kicking.The problem is i don't know how to upgrade it.
> Is there any website that can provide me with the steps on how to
> upgrade the kernel and where to download it?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: kernel 2.4.4 and sftp freeze my box
Date: 8 May 2001 01:57:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Simonz wrote:
> hi there, i installed kernel 2.4.4 and using sftp.
> my box always freeze when i tried to upload using sftp.
> it just freeze and i can't see anything.
The whole system, or just this process?
> when i downgrade my kernel to 2.4.3 it works just fine.
Maybe it's the notorious "run children first" change. It's been
reverted in 2.4.5-pre1, so you might try that.
See the beginning of
http://lwn.net/2001/0503/kernel.php3
for a brief description.
--
Paul Kimoto
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hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing windows and linux
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:42:11 +0200
> > That I cannot control.
> > Depends on the partitiontable of that disk.
> > (And you haven't showed it)
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hdc1 * 1 58168 29316640+ 83 Linux
>
> Hmmm.. Have no idea why it's bootable, there is nothing to boot on it...
Windows will not see this disk, nor will it touch it.
The bootable flag is irrelevant, remove it if you like, or leave it as is.
> > What FS do you want to use.
> > win98 will use FAT32 as FS, NT by default doesn't understand FAT32
> > and would use FAT16 (or NTFS ofcourse)
>
> I'll probably be using Windows98, unless a friend of mine has Windows2000,
but
> then I'll ask what kind of partition I should set...
It'll be obvious. Besides, if you let windows partition, you don't have a
choice.
It will choose the type it thinks it needs.
> > > I'm just looking to know if this will work for the installation? I'm
> > planning
> > > on reseting the partition map,
> >
> > delete the whole table you mean?
>
> No, sorry, I meant to delete and to make a new one... To set it again, to
> re-set it...
That's all the same.
You don't want to keep the current partition-table.
Nothing that's in it now, must be kept.
> > > reboot, install windows, reboot, install Redhat
> >
> > Ah, that's why. Windows may indeed ignore the partitiontable anyway.
>
> Yes, it seems that sometimes it just ignores it and use the whole disk...
But
> there were always a partition!
>
> > > 7.1 and then settle down for awhile... What do you think of this?
Will
> > windows
> > > delete my partition table (as it often did when I tried before...)?
> >
> > probably it will do so again.
> > It appears that OEM windows-CD's (often/always?) ignore existing
> > partitiontables.
> > If it ignored it before, it's not going to respect it this time.
>
> Well, I've been able to install, once.... And the installation worked
> perfectly, so I hope it was just because of details that I could not the
other
> times... details such as putting windows' partition other than hda1,
etc...
>
Been there, done that.
I no longer trust MS installation CD's. They wrecked my table once. (Luckily
on
a fresh system, there was nothing to keep) I'll never let a MS install next
to an
existing install of linux again.
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitiong question
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:05:21 +0200
> I have seen many allusions to this, but never blurted out.
> Can both the ext2 and swap partitions be in an extended partition?
> If so, are there any gotchas to look out for?
Please post in plain text only!
Yes, they can. And why not, you can even make swapfiles, inside a
logical ext2 partition.
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /boot/message - howto create
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:08:22 +0200
> When SuSE 7.1 was installed, the /boot/message created is 65688; the lilo
> version is 21.6.
>
> After updating lilo to 21.7.x, the error msg on running lilo is that
> the /boot/message file is greater than 65535 (as per the man lilo.conf).
> I now have reverted back to 21.6 (suse's version?) so that the new
kernel(s)
> may be created and "added" to lilo.conf.
>
> Now, how do I create/change another "message" and/or what app can I use
> to "see" the /boot/message file?????
IIRC it's just an .png graphics file (I can't check, I don't have one
present here)
Try gimp/xv/imagemagick.
(There was a gimp-plugin on freshmeat last week I believe for creating these
files too)
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Dnes)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: anyone have solution install RH7.1 on 16M RAM
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 07:29:32 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 8 May 2001 02:09:04 +0800, tin, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> anyone have solution install RH7.1 on 16M RAM
> Intel p100 box
Are you a masochist<g> ? If it's at all possible, I suggest...
- text mode install
- select custom (not "workstation", let alone "server")
- honking big swapfile, say 512 megs
- answer "no" to just about every optional software package. Use
RPM to add in stuff you really need later.
And don't even *THINK* about X.
What do you want to do with it? If you want to use it as a
dedicated-router-cum-firewall, check out coyote or lrp instead. If you
actually want to get any serious work done, buy a used 64-meg machine.
Another option is to run RH6.2 with the latest updates on the machine.
Even there, I question how well X would (wouldn't ?) run.
--
Walter Dnes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which Linux to Get for Win2k?
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 May 2001 03:34:58 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent) writes:
> On Thu, 3 May 2001 20:57:29 -0400, Brett wrote:
> >
> >Buying a removable disk seems a good idea. I'll look into it. I assume
> >most distributions (including Redhat) will be able to work with removable
> >media?
>
> CDs and floppies yes; but removable hard drives are another matter, not because
> of the operating system but because of the BIOS. AFAIK, hot swapping an IDE
> drive isn't possible.
There are hot-swap IDE enclosures, but really, to have multiple disks to run
multiple OSes, you don't need hot-swap. Turning the machine off, swaping
disks, and turning the machine on works well.
--
Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc. (GCC group)
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +1 978-486-9304
Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: +1 978-692-4482
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From: Scott Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bootdisk
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 08:41:22 +0100
Hello,
Does anyone know how to create a new linux bootdisk with LILO on it.
Basically, I cannot put LILO on my hardisk, so after upgrading my
kernel, I wat to put the LILO bootloader onto a floppy disk,so that I
can boot up with the new kernel.
Cheers,
Scott
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From: "Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A little Help
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 07:58:31 GMT
Hello, I have to do a uni assignment on how the Linux Kernel conducts either
its
- Processes,
- Memory Management, or
- File Systems,
Maybe one of you gurus could reccomend which topic they think I should do,
and suggest maybe a URL where I could find the appropriate resources...
Only if you want to help that is!
Thankyou
Ryan
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From: "Massimo Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: understanding how a kernel was built (extracting its config).
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 08:23:24 GMT
Messages from a previous thread lead me to formulate a new question, hence a
new thread.
I have tried to compile the source code for kernel 2.4.2. I did it
many times, as everytime I had finished a compilation and tested the kernel,
I discovered that I had forgotten to include
support for something. This happened even if I had gone read the
documentation that comes with the drivers as one does "make xconfig".
My old kernel 2.2.16, that came pre-built from RH7.0, included support for
sound and PPP that I did not manage to include in 2.4.2, despite the efforts
to include them at "config" time for 2.4.2.
The question then is: given a built kernel, for example one that comes from
a give distribution, is there a way to extract from it the config file that
was used to build it? What is available as a module, and what is pre-built
in the kernel, for example.
If the answer to the qeustion above was yes, I guess it would be easier to
understand what is needed in a new kernel to make it work at least as good
as your old one. One would include the old functionalities, if needed, plus
what's new.
Hope the question is clear.
Thanks in advance
Massimo Pinto
--
Massimo Pinto
Ph.D. Student
Gray Laboratory Cancer Research Trust
http://www.graylab.ac.uk/usr/pinto
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From: Robert Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: understanding how a kernel was built (extracting its config).
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:45:27 +0100
Hi,
> The question then is: given a built kernel, for example one that comes from
> a give distribution, is there a way to extract from it the config file that
> was used to build it? What is available as a module, and what is pre-built
> in the kernel, for example.
Yes and no. There's no way I know of to get it (easily) directly from
the kernel binary, however the .config file in the source directory is
(sort of) human readable. To get this for a distribution's kernel, I
suggest you install the kernel source package, then copy
/usr/src/linux/.config to the new source directory; you can then do make
oldconfig or something.
HTH
Robert
--
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| o o ^ |Robert Horton --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | / \ |School of Informatics
| \___/ / o \ |University of Wales, Bangor
| / o \|http://www.bangor.ac.uk/~eeu41a
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat,redhat.config
Subject: Re: Magic partition on linux?
Date: 8 May 2001 09:51:49 +0100
alfred hammerfield wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>is there a utility on linux that permit to redistrubut disk partitions
>like partition-magic on Win NT4 ?
There is GNU parted. If it doesn't come with your distribution, you
can get the latest version from http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/
It can resize and copy ext2 and fat partitions as well as Linux swap.
Support for other file system types is limited.
Parted can also convert from fat16 to fat32 and vice versa.
The current version of parted is 1.4.9. The GNU bootdisk sometimes
has problems with odd hardware if it isn't compiled into the kernel.
-- Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:35:10 +0200
From: Simone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: some NFS mounted dir and files are 'invisible'??
Hello everybody,
We are having some problems on a machine (i686) running Linux Redhat-7.1
with kernel version 2.4.2-2.
and GNU bash, version 2.02.1(1)-release (i686-pc-linux-gnu)
We have a NSF mounted directory /net/Repository where we keep all our
software. (Repository is on a sgi)
If I do the following (the ... indicates just a part of the path that I
have omitted)
[7]> ls /net/Repository/.../Main_Template/ <enter>
Data,v main_ALE.f,v makefile,v usr_data_boundary.f90,v usr_data_fluid.f,v
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ls tells me that in the directory I have 5 files (rightly so!). While, if I
do use the <tab> file completion (bash shell)
[8]> ls /net/Repository/.../Main_Template/ <tab> <tab>
Data,v makefile,v
main_ALE.f,v usr_data_fluid.f,v
I find only 4 files!
and also:
[8]> ls /net/Repository/.../Main_Template/* <enter>
Data,v makefile,v
main_ALE.f,v usr_data_fluid.f,v
The worst of it is that cvs, which is normally the utility that operates on
that directory, DOES NOT FIND the file usr_data_boundary.f90,v EITHER!
Everything worked fine with RH 7.0 and kernel 2.2.x. Could it be related
with the new NFS code in the kernel? We need help to solve the problem,
otherwise we cannot use cvs!
Thank you for your help.
Luca and Simone.
PS: This happens also with other regular files, directoris or binaries not
related to CVS, but still in Repository.
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