Linux-Setup Digest #185, Volume #19 Tue, 18 Jul 00 08:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Defraging against LILO? (Unai Garro)
Re: Lost LILO needs to be reconfigured...please help! ("albert")
Re: How Do I Install Star Office (John Thompson)
Re: ext2 partition between FAT32 partitions (Stanislaw Flatto)
New User: INSTAL ON WIN98 (FAT32) partition (Peter Lairo)
Re: ext2 partition between FAT32 partitions ("Rich S")
capture screen output during booting (mikey)
Re: Lost LILO needs to be reconfigured...please help! (Anita Lewis)
Soundcard Problems. (root)
setup GNOM as default ? ("Hans Tr�sch")
PCMCIA modem setup problem (Michal Szymanski)
Re: capture screen output during booting (Rasputin)
SetSerial to IRQ 11 - setup? (Dogbert Dilbert)
Sendmail slowing down startup (Dogbert Dilbert)
Re: HELP with install... ("Jérôme Meyer")
Re: rpm problem (ray)
Redhat 6.2/ATI Rage 128 Pro (Ron Le Blanc)
Re: pppd trouble... ("Artyom V. Viklenko")
Re: Defraging against LILO? ("Peter T. Breuer")
japanese characters. (Emmanuel Benazera)
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From: Unai Garro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Defraging against LILO?
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:26:08 +0100
Hi all,
I wonder if someone might know what the solution for my problem could
be. I know some other people that had the same problem, but no one knew
how to solve it.
I had installed both Linux Mandrake 7.0 and the Win98 on the same hard
disk, when I decided to defragment the disk under Windoze. I thought
that this should not be a problem, because Windows was not able to 'see'
the Linux partitions. It has however destroyed the LILO, so it is not
possible to boot up neither Linux nor Windoze.
Someone told me that it might be possible to recover the system by
reinstalling the linux as an upgrade, and that it would recover the
LILO, but it was not possible to reinstall it, because it seems that it
has also destroyed the partition system of Linux.
Does anyone know if it is possible to recover the system after this
problem, or any idea how to defrag the hard disk without destroying the
Linux?
Cheers,
Unai
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From: "albert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Lost LILO needs to be reconfigured...please help!
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:23:55 +0100
Thank you for the help you've given
Fortunately for me, nothing terrible happened, and when I booted with the
rescue disk from Red Hat, it must have fixed something because the optioins
are set as before. I took a look at lilo.conf and it's similar to what
chem-r-us wrote. But for some reason, gnome isn't working very stable, and
even rebooted on me when I was trying to install staroffice 5.1.
Question?
Although this as been answered here sometimes, how can I change the
resolution on my desktop to 1024*768 @ 85Mhz ? Whenever gnome starts, it
jumps to the 1200*1024 and I have to do ctrl + alt + -, to decrease the
virtual size. I edited the x11/xf86config file, and commented with #
anything above 1024*768, but that didn't work. also, running XF86CONFIG
didn't help.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Do I Install Star Office
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 19:44:39 -0500
Mart Rootamm wrote:
> > I recently downloaded StarOffice, and burned it to a CD. The file has a .bin
> > extension. Being a newbie to Linux I am not quite sure on how to proceed in
> > installing this application.
> >
> > I am use to installing .rpm files, but have not installed a file w/a .bin
> > extension. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> Although I am a newbie to Linux, too, I learned that Unix/Linux files are
> differently attributed than those of DOS. The mark that it is executable, is set
> in the file attributes and not in an extension. A separate per-user attribute is
> also attached.
Another point to remember with executables on CD's is that the
device must be mounted with "exec" permission in order to run the
executable directly from the CD. See man mount for details.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ext2 partition between FAT32 partitions
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:31:12 +0000
Rich S wrote:
>
> I want to do the following
> 2gb - Win98SE
> 5gb - Linux
> 10gb - Windows Data
> 10gb - windows Data
> 3gb - spare
>
> However, upon reading my installation manual (SUSE 6.4) it read that I
> couldnt have the linux partition in between windows partitions.
{kaka de torro}
> Cheers
> Rich.
Welcome to Linux-land!
SuSE 6.4 or any other number IS Linux, meaning that YOU are the master and
everything can be done the way you want.
If you are afraid to tackle this little bull by the horns - trick him.
Delete the three last partitions from disk, with either DOS bootably diskette
with FDISK.EXE on it (you can create such from Windows MS-DOS prompt screen) or
with Linux fdisk.
This leaves the 2Gb Windows partition and 5Gb type 83 (ext2) partition for
Linux.
BTW where is your swap partition?
If you have not prepared the partitions for Linux install and expect the
installation to do it for you delete the 5Gb partition and during install set
the size.
The additional partitions needed for storing data can be created later on
un-assigned space with the tools provided by each OS.
Have a lot of fun... (that's SuSE greeting)
Stanislaw.
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From: Peter Lairo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New User: INSTAL ON WIN98 (FAT32) partition
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:44:38 +0200
Hi,
i want to move from M$ to Corel Linux (but also KEEP Win98 for now) and
have a few questions:
1. i want to install paralell onto a win98 drive (C:\windows\ +
C:\Linux\ - all Fat32). will this ruin my win98 installation?
2. if i decide to later install Linux onto its own partition with its
own file system, how do i delete linux from my fat32 C: drive without
disturbing my win98 installation?
3. are there any benefits to the linux file system?
4. could you give me some examples of these benefits?
5. if linux is on my C: drive (fat32) with windows, can linux
wordperfect red my win wordperfect documents, and vica-versa?
6. if linux is on its own partition with its own file system, can linux
WP then still read my win WP documents on my C: drive (fat32)?
7. any suggestions on how to best share files between the two system
during my (long) transition period between linux and windows 98?
--
Regards,
Peter Lairo
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From: "Rich S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ext2 partition between FAT32 partitions
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:50:23 +0100
Thanks, but not quite enough information.
I havent done anything to my hddrive yet. Except the partitions (mentioned
before) and installed win98se.
Can i do a straight install without removing the partitions and create linux
partitions ( / and swap ) direct to the second partition ( ignoring the
other win partitions )? Would win98se cope with this and have fat32
partitions around the linux partition? Or would it throw a number of
errors?
Am I right in saying that under the SUSE install proceedure (YaST) I can
remove a win partition and re-format it to linux ( after re-partitioning for
/ and swap ) without causing damage to the other win partitions?
Can I remove all the partitions (apart from the first one with win98se on
it), and then install linux, and then use msdos fdisk (?) to re-create the
final partitions (which would be for win98se)?
The problem is, is that I tried to install linux before (on my old PC) and
ended up loosing loads of data. I do backups, but aint got the time for
re-installing everything. I have already got my hands burned and dont want
it to happen again, so all information is greatly appreciated.
Anyone with a step-by-step guide to solving this problem would be greatly
appreciated.
Cheers
Rich.
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From: mikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: capture screen output during booting
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:57:14 GMT
Hi,
Is there a way to capture screen output from the kernel during
booting ??
Regards,
Mike
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Lost LILO needs to be reconfigured...please help!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:12:15 GMT
On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:23:55 +0100, albert wrote:
>Thank you for the help you've given
>
>Fortunately for me, nothing terrible happened, and when I booted with the
>rescue disk from Red Hat, it must have fixed something because the optioins
>are set as before. I took a look at lilo.conf and it's similar to what
>chem-r-us wrote. But for some reason, gnome isn't working very stable, and
>even rebooted on me when I was trying to install staroffice 5.1.
>Question?
>Although this as been answered here sometimes, how can I change the
>resolution on my desktop to 1024*768 @ 85Mhz ? Whenever gnome starts, it
>jumps to the 1200*1024 and I have to do ctrl + alt + -, to decrease the
>virtual size. I edited the x11/xf86config file, and commented with #
>anything above 1024*768, but that didn't work. also, running XF86CONFIG
>didn't help.
Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config in the Screen Section for the driver you are using.
In Modes put the desired resolution first in line and it will start up with
that as default. Be sure you make the change in the section for the color
depth you are using, or just change them all if you use different color
depths. You may find that it goes into a virtual using 1200 x 1024, in
which case you can add a line that says Virtual 1024 768 (no x in that). I
am not sure if that still happens with X, but it used to be that it assumed
a virtual of the highest resolution listed.
Anita
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Soundcard Problems.
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:15:20 GMT
Dear Group
I have a problem here with sound which is driving me insane..! Has
anyone managed to get any sound from a Trident soundcard using alsa
drivers or any others for that matter. The reason I ask is that I have
a Trident addonics sv 750 soundcard which under kernel 2.2.14-15mdk is
detected by sndconfig but that reports that the card is not supported
but I should try alsa-project..! I tried alsa-drivers with the -lib
-utils-0.5.8 which required the 2.2.16 kernel which i've clean installed
at least 10 times but as yet no joy. I've done all the usual things
like enable sound support only in the kernel, setup a module in the
kernel and even selected the option to install a trident driver for the
4DWave DX. Nothing seems to work. Infact it gets worse. Once I've
updated the kernel to 2.2.16, I can run sndconfig but get the following
message:
' You don't seem to be running a kernel with modular sound enabled '
Well I think I am. Sound support is enabled every time. It works OK
until I do the update then everything goes pear shaped - a bit like my
head at the moment. :o)
I've tried using the 2.4test kernel but again, no joy. Any ideas..?
Many thanks
Martin Kelly - Registered Linux User
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From: "Hans Tr�sch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setup GNOM as default ?
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:28:48 +0200
Hello all, and thanks for reading.
After installing RedHat 6.1 with Gnome-Desktop i have activate the
Switchdesk-Tool to change the desktop from Gnome to KDE-Mode. But i have
never befor installed the KDE-Package. That's wrong. Now, everytime i start
Xstart (user:root) the damaged KDE-Desktop will startup.
If i logon with an other account the correct desk startup (Gnome). With the
same account and SU privilege the damaged KDE-Desk startup. Switchdesk give
no help.
Where and in which config-file is the "bug", so i can startup the user ROOT
default with Gnome -Desktop??
thanks for your help John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michal Szymanski)
Subject: PCMCIA modem setup problem
Date: 18 Jul 2000 10:30:57 GMT
Hi,
A friend of mine has a Gericom Overdose-2 laptop with two PCMCIA
cards from ActionTec - a V.90 modem and a 10/100 Ethernet card.
It used to work more or less fine under RH6.1 - sometimes
eth0 interface did not boot up properly (requiring to reboot) but the
modem worked flawlessly.
After a major HDD failure we had to install OS-es from scratch (Windoze
98 & Linux) so we upgraded Linux to RH6.2 (kernel 2.2.14). The modem
stopped working. PCMCIA starts up and reports error like:
cs_serial: RequestIRQ Resource in use.
And then, "setserial -g /dev/modem" reports IRQ=0 (zero!) which, of
course, is in use (system timer uses irq=0).
Under Windows, it gets IRQ=3, as expected on COM2 (I disabled second
serial port of the laptop (infrared port)) so the PCMCIA modem
gets configured as COM2. And, under Win98, it works fine.
It worked only once under Linux but this must have been a miracle ;-)
Now I can reboot it as many times as I want, go to Windows then to
Linux, nothing helps. I also experimented with "PNP OS" setting in
BIOS, no success.
Is there a way to configure IRQ port on the PCMCIA modem card to some
reasonble value?
Anu hints would be appreciated. I'm a bit confused as the very same
modem card works fine under Windows and it used to work fine under
earlier version of RedHat Linux. So it is rather NOT a problem with the
modem itself. In particular, NO, IT IS NOT A WINMODEM ;-)))))
regards, Michal.
--
Michal Szymanski ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Warsaw University Observatory, Warszawa, POLAND
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: capture screen output during booting
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:49:33 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mikey> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Is there a way to capture screen output from the kernel during
>booting ??
dmesg may do what you need (but that's after you've booted)
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: Dogbert Dilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SetSerial to IRQ 11 - setup?
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:58:22 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear All,
I always have to change setserial to IRQ11 to get my modem working
(/dev/ttyS2 seems to be permanently set to IRQ 4); where should I go
to change this setting so that I don't need to type in "setserial
/dev/ttyS2 IRQ 11" every time I log in?
Many Thanks!
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From: Dogbert Dilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sendmail slowing down startup
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:02:22 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear All,
when I startup LINUX (RedHat 6.2), I get all the messages scrolling by
in white and green of all the processes that the kernel is starting
up. When it gets to Sendmail it halts for a good 2 minutes before it
will proceed.
I can get e-mail fine with Kmail - is there anywhere I could look to
see why Sendmail is taking so long to start up, or alternatively to
stop it running at startup so that it only comes on when I need it?
Many Thanks!
Dogbert
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From: "Jérôme Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HELP with install...
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:49:56 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now, all is properly up and running...
Thanks a lot for your help!
JM
Krzys Majewski wrote:
>
> Unless you have two hard drives, you will probably need to partition
> your hard drive first. If your drive is already partitioned, then you're
> set -- put windows on one of the partitions, and linux on another.
> You can probably do this in whichever order though I've only tried the
> order {Windows, Linux}. If your drive isn't partitioned, you'll need
> to use something like fips or partition magic to shrink the existing partition
> (assuming you have something interesting on it) so that your linux install
> can create a new one in the resulting empty space.
>
> Short answer: I've tried windows first, then linux, and that worked fine.
>
> Lilo is a program that writes some stuff to the part of your disk which
> normally loads the operating system. So when you boot up your machine
> it says "do you want linux or windows?" and you say, of course, "linux".
>
> -chris
>
> J. Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I will install on my PC both Linux(Suse6.4) and Windows98 with
> > the size ~10GB for Windows and ~15GB for Linux.
> > I've just few question about the installation:
> > - What I should install first Windows or Linux (easy way)?
> > - I cannot understand how we can choose (on starting) Windows or Linux.
> > Because Linux
> > use the LILO boot system and not windows. How could I configure this
> > features?
>
> > Thanks a lot for your help,
>
> > Regards,
> > JM
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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm problem
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:54:12 GMT
"David .." wrote:
> David Punsalan wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've recently noticed that if I issue:
> > rpm -q <rpm name>
> >
> > I always get:
> > <rpm name> not installed
> >
> > Regardless of wether it is installed or not. For example, I'll type in
> > the name of an rpm, like XFree-86, and it says the same thing.
> >
> > Then, if I type rpm -i <rpm name>, it'll say - rpm already installed.
> >
> > What gives?
> >
> > Do I need to be ina certain directory when I query rpm's?
>
> Try: rpm -q rpm
>
> If you use a wrong name or make a typo it will say the package isn't
> installed.
>
> XFree-86 is not the correct name.
>
> Try: rpm -q XFree86
>
> --
> Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
Yes, isn't that aggravating? Look at this:
rpm -qa |grep something-like-it
That's a HANDY thing to find the package's RIGHT name, when you don't know.
AND rpm -qa >rpmlist and you get all the installed packages in a text list.
--
Ray R. Jones
Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP://gordo.penguinpowered.com
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From: Ron Le Blanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 6.2/ATI Rage 128 Pro
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 07:17:22 -0400
New computer, a Dell 4100 with an ATI Rage 128 Pro AGP video card w/8MB
of memory. Dead to linux.
Cannot get the ATI video card to run under X. Has anyone been able to
get this card configured and running under Redhat 6.2???
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From: "Artyom V. Viklenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: pppd trouble...
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:25:31 +0300
Veronica Ancheva Gerassimova wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> All the How-tos, books and web-manuals say if you want to
> discover the problem log your sessions but nobody says how to read the
> log-files. I found some helpful explanations in these newsgroups but it
> seems that none of them matches what I see on my computer. If somebody
> could help me it will be highly appreciated...
>
> Here is what I see when I dial the ISP using a regular terminal program
> (seyon):
> atz
> OK
> atdt3237000
> CONNECT 9600
> UQKT2 tnt4.des-moines.id.da.nn.net
> Login: mylogin
> Password: mypassword
> Entering PPP Session.
> IP address is 63.11.140.203
> MTU is 1524.
> NO CARRIER.
> ******************************
IMHO the problem is with remote side. Look. If you connect no PPP server
such as in
FreeBSD, Linux, etc, you shall see LCP packets like a garbage. No one
such server
doesn't send plain text with IP address. So, I think, remote server does
not support LCP
negotiation. So, you need some script, which will parse information from
remote server,
extract IP and MTU, and then you need to start pppd with that options
and with disabled
LCP negotiation.
Such procedire was used by some providers with SLIP protocol (before
transition to PPP)
since it doesn't support negotiation of network parameters.
--
Sincerely yours,
Artyom V. Viklenko.
======================================================================
Artyom V. Viklenko : MIPK-KSPU 21, Frunze Str. Kharkov Ukraine 61002
SysAdmin UNIX & OS/2 : Phone: +38 0572 400026 Fax: +38 0572 474062
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.freenet.kharkov.ua/~artem
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Defraging against LILO?
Date: 18 Jul 2000 11:42:24 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Unai Garro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I wonder if someone might know what the solution for my problem could
: be. I know some other people that had the same problem, but no one knew
: how to solve it.
Take aspirin.
: I had installed both Linux Mandrake 7.0 and the Win98 on the same hard
: disk, when I decided to defragment the disk under Windoze. I thought
: that this should not be a problem, because Windows was not able to 'see'
: the Linux partitions. It has however destroyed the LILO, so it is not
: possible to boot up neither Linux nor Windoze.
Well, so what? Put it back. Get out your rescue diskette or
installation cd and boot from that, and put lilo back on the MBR
once booted.
Peter
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From: Emmanuel Benazera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: japanese characters.
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:07:07 +0200
hello
I'm using suse 6.4 and would like to be able to browse japanese sites,
with japanese characters (with netscape for example). What do I have to
install ? (I found jap locales for glib, but I could not find the
sources, only rpm for glibc-2.1, as I'm using glibc-2.3 ...).
any help would be fine ! ;--)
ciao
Emmanuel
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