Linux-Setup Digest #231, Volume #20              Sat, 16 Dec 00 05:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Why does Sndconfig lock up on me? ("enness")
  error on 'make bzImage', please help! ("Neil Guinto")
  Re: suggest me one which can handle multiple POP3 email addresses? (Michael Perry)
  How can I modify SCSI card scanning order? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Zip 100 Parallel Port ("Robert Morelli")
  --MARK-- in messages log (Nigel Sim)
  What I've learned in the last few days... (Skip S.)
  Re: error on 'make bzImage', please help! (Skip S.)
  Re: error on 'make bzImage', please help! (devren bennett)
  Re: Why does Sndconfig lock up on me? (devren bennett)
  Re: Configuring Sound (devren bennett)
  Re: --MARK-- in messages log (Bob Martin)
  Re: Need insights into Slackware setup.... (devren bennett)
  Re: Kernal installation (devren bennett)
  Re: error on 'make bzImage', please help! (Skip S.)
  Re: Hard disk not recognised by RH7.0 (devren bennett)
  Re: Help loading ftape module (Skip S.)
  Re: suggest me one which can handle multiple POP3 email addresses? (devren bennett)
  Re: how to know when last accessed .... (devren bennett)
  Re: Dual boot WinME + Linux ("Eric en Jolanda")
  Re: About Starting ONE kernel from WITHIN another? (devren bennett)

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From: "enness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why does Sndconfig lock up on me?
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 05:31:11 GMT

Tom,
I have the same sound card in my Laptop. But the LM7.2 did not detect it nor
does Harddrake. How do you run 'sndconfig'. I did not find sndconfig
anywhere in my machine. Pl let me know where can I find this program

Thanks for your help.

tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:91eiu8$197$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Okay, nobody in the Mandrake group can/will help me, so I'll try here.
>
> I'm using Mandrake 7.1 .  Twice I've tried running sndconfig from the
> command line.  (X is not running) Both times, it tells me that it has
> detected my sound "card" (Yamaha OPL3-Sa3 built in to the motherboard).
> However, once I get this message, the cursor plants itself down in the
> lower left corner and nothing else happens.
>
> When I've tried listening to cd's, they play but there's no sound.
> When I try listening to .wav's or .mp3's, there's a loud static and no
> music. (I did kind of hear a snippet of the voice in DrakConfig's sound
> setup.)
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
>



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From: "Neil Guinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: error on 'make bzImage', please help!
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:12:15 -0600

I have Red Hat 7.0 installed on my computer.  I'm trying to configure the
kernel to put drivers for my network card.  After selecting the necessary
drivers, I did 'make dep' - success, 'make clean' - success, but the
following are the errors(sniffet) returned by 'make bzImage';

make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2

I am a newbie linux user, and my project is to connect this linux machine to
my private network of windows machines.  Appreciate your time and help.






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: suggest me one which can handle multiple POP3 email addresses?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:41:49 -0800

On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:15:40 +0900, news <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have installed RedHat 6. It's working fine. The KDE can handle dialup very
>efficiently. But I need an email client. I have visited the site.
>
>
>can anyone suggest me one which can handle multiple POP3 email addresses?
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>Joarder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
There are a lot of ways to do this.  I have heard that the new Kmail in KDE
2.0.1 does this well.  I tend to use a console mailer like mutt and setup
different accounts for myself for the different email accounts.  One split I
have is easy.  I decided to build a work system and segregate all my work
email to that box.  Then you will need something like fetchmail which will
fetch email from multiple PoP accounts.  Others probably use some procmail
cleverness to deal with this.

The combination I use is exim + procmail + fetchmail + mutt.  They all seem
to like each other pretty well and they all work together.  I learned how to
write rewrite rules in exim so I can masquerade the envelope headers a bit
and I also learned a little about writing muttrc files to take advantage of
some things that mutt does well.   All I needed to do was write a
fetchmailrc file which would "poll" several mail servers at set times.  I
found this in man fetchmail.  Many of these things happened some years ago;
but I imagine the approach is still the same :)

In essence my email table is:

exim - smtp services to relay mail to a smarthost smtp server
fetchmail - to get pop3 email from several servers I have accounts on
procmail - moves mail into folders, deletes other mail, does yet other
        hings
mutt - pretty capable console-based mail reader



-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How can I modify SCSI card scanning order?
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 07:16:10 GMT



=====================================
Dell PowerEdge 2450, BIOS version A05
Linux 7.0
Raidtec external RAID array
Adaptec 29160 SCSI card
=====================================

In short: how can I reverse /dev/sda and /dev/sdb?

I am setting up a database server.  Linux is in the internal
disks (under Dell's PERC hardware RAID) and the database will
be in the external RAID array attached to an Adaptec 29160 HBA.

As you all know SCSI has a hierarchical nature:
 - HBA
 - Channel
 - SCSI device (0-7 or 0-15)
 - LUN

So if you have a complicated system, you need to specify the
boot device like this:

Boot from HBA x, Channel y, SCSI ID n, LUN z

Dealing with the computer's BIOS and the HBAs BIOS, I have
found ways to specify booting priority for the last 3 above
(channel, SCSI ID and LUN) but not for the HBA.

My big problem is that I need a way to say: "This HBA has
booting priority over that HBA".

Dell used to have a BIOS setting that allowed me to specify
PCI bus scanning from left to right or viceversa.
Additionally I could give priority to built-in HBAs over
actual SCSI cards (or viceversa).

Unfortunately, my current Dell BIOS doesn't to allow me
to specify priority for the different PCI devices.

At installation time, I get the 2 disks (sda and sdb) in the wrong
order; I need the system disk to be sda and the data disk sdb.
That way, even if the external disk is absent, sda will always
be the first disk. If I have the OS in sdb and the other disk is
missing, the system disk will become sda and all sorts of
confusion will follow.

Please e-mail your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and feel free
to post it too)

Thanks,

-Ramon F. Herrera

This is the output from lspci:

=======================================================================
00:00.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks CNB20HE (rev 06)
00:00.1 Host bridge: ServerWorks CNB20HE (rev 06)
00:08.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec 7892A (rev 02)
00:0e.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC (rev
7a)
00:0f.0 ISA bridge: ServerWorks OSB4 (rev 50)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: ServerWorks: Unknown device 0211
01:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 0962 (rev 02)
01:02.1 RAID bus controller: Dell Computer Corporation PowerEdge
Expandable RAID
 Controller 3/Si (rev 02)
01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100]
(rev 08)
02:04.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec RAID subsystem HBA (rev 01)
02:04.1 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec 7899P (rev 01)
=======================================================================


Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: "Robert Morelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zip 100 Parallel Port
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:04:54 -0700

In article <91ek2u$238$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In article <9169ko$qm0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Robert Morelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I am running Red Hat 6.2. I'm not entirely sure what the Red Hat
>> equivalent of boot.local is and I don't want to muck with something if
>> I'm not sure.
> 
> /etc/rc.d/rc.local, it is the last bootup config script to run,
> put the insmod commands at the end of this file.
> 
>> In any case, according to the document it's necessary for ppa to be
>> loaded before lp so I need to also know where lp is loaded.
> 
> My RH6.2 system does not have the lp module loaded at boot, maybe yours
> does not either...  List all loaded modules with the lsmod command, e.g.
> 

Mine does load the lp module,  as is verified by the lsmod command.  How
would I go about determining where it is loaded?

By the way,  don't you need lp to be able to use the parallel port?

Also,  I'm not sure if knowing this is going to do the trick.  If for
instance I unload lp with 
rmmod lp
and then load ppa followed by lp,  I get the same error messages when
I try to mount the zip drive.  If the lp module being loaded first is
really the problem,  would unloading it be expected to solve the problem?

> # lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by ppp                    20268   2 
> (autoclean) slhc                    4568   0  (autoclean) [ppp]
> nls_cp437 
>              3748   1  (autoclean) vfat                    9500   1 
> (autoclean) fat                    31168   1  (autoclean) [vfat]
> ide-floppy              8672   1  (autoclean) busmouse               
> 1984
>   1  (autoclean) lockd                  31592   1  (autoclean) ne2k-pci 
>    
>             4716   1  (autoclean)
> 8390                    6136   0  (autoclean) [ne2k-pci]
> nls_iso8859-1           2240   2  (autoclean) awe_wave             
> 158132
>   1 sb                     34132   1 uart401                 6256   1 
> [sb] sound                  58264   0  [awe_wave sb uart401] soundlow   
>  
>            420   0  [sound] soundcore               2692   7  [sb sound]
> #
> 
> Hope this helps Bluster
> 
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:58:32 +1000
From: Nigel Sim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: --MARK-- in messages log

I would like to know what puts the -- MARK -- in my /var/log/messages
file at 20 minute intervals. I figure it is so you can tell when the
system stalled or something like that. Anyway I would like to know how
to control it, ie change the interval or turn it off.
Thanks
Nigel


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From: Skip S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What I've learned in the last few days...
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:00:47 -0800

I'm new to Linux... I played with Slackware a couple years back, but 
quickly became overwhelmed by the complexity of getting a system setup to 
where it was comfortable. The whole system (then) was so feature (hardware) 
poor, X felt 'klunky', the command line had such a steep learning curve. I 
quickly gave up.

About a week ago I decided I would do it again, and downloaded RedHat 7.

Since then I've installed fresh four times, recompiled the kernel 10 times 
at least and learned among other things that 'tail -f /var/log/messages' is 
a way cool thing. This is just a short list of things I've learned, in case 
they may be helpful to others, who like me, are at the steepest point in 
the learning curve, and not finding good answers in the docs. (I do realize 
that many of the issues I raise here are quirks of this particular release 
and will be fixed next time around)

1) I like KDE 2. I don't wish to enter into any window manager debates, but 
I will state my feelings... "KDE Rocks!"

2) You probably all know it, but you need to 'make mrproper' on the RH7 
kernel source, before it will compile with SMP turned off. This was a major 
stumbling block. At least it kept failing at the begining of the build, 
instead of at the end :) I finally found the answer on the web (but I 
really had to dig). I never would have figured it out on my own.

3) The kernel build also fails if you try and build AGP/DRI into the 
kernel. It works if you put them in a module. I don't know just where the 
problem lays. I have AGP w/ Ali M1541 chipset, and DRI w/ 3Dfx Voodoo 3. I 
don't know which of the four was causing the problem, but they are all 
modular now, and working.

4) SCSI Disk support doesn't function if built as a module. I have no SCSI 
disks, but need SCSI support for USB storage (more on this later). This is 
where I learned about using tail to watch the log. I can't remember the 
exact error message that 'modprobe sd_mod' raised, but only by searching 
for that exact error message was I able to find any help on the web. The 
problem with the SCSI disk module was a major hurdle.

5) Changing the default runlevel in /etc/inittab to swap between X and the 
command line for login... Why doesn't someone tell us these things??? :)

6) SanDisk USB Imagemate (SDDR-31) compact flash memory reader setup is no 
easy task if you rely on the existing documentation. I did everything just 
like the docs said, but it just didn't mount. The problem stemmed from the 
fact that USB storage devices are accessed through SCSI /dev's.  The system 
will never see /dev/sda1 as a valid block device if the SCSI disk module is 
failing to load. Actually if the drivers are in place the whole process of 
putting the reader online is very painless, yet it took me three days to 
figure that out :)

This is only the beginning of my oddessy(sic). I will try and post other 
things I come across as I fing them.

Thanks

Skip S.

-- 
If we are what we eat, I'm fast, cheap and easy, with cheese.

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From: Skip S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: error on 'make bzImage', please help!
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:02:03 -0800

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:12:15 -0600, Neil Guinto wrote:

> I have Red Hat 7.0 installed on my computer.  I'm trying to configure the
> kernel to put drivers for my network card.  After selecting the necessary
> drivers, I did 'make dep' - success, 'make clean' - success, but the
> following are the errors(sniffet) returned by 'make bzImage';
> 
> make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
> make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
> make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2
> 
> I am a newbie linux user, and my project is to connect this linux machine
> to
> my private network of windows machines.  Appreciate your time and help.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
'make mrproper' and start over at 'make config' I can't explain it but it 
works.
-- 
If we are what we eat, I'm fast, cheap and easy, with cheese.

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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: error on 'make bzImage', please help!
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:30:30 -0900

do you have a bzImage file though??  If you do, things are probably fine.  just
add that image to your lilo and try it, if it doesn't work, boot back in using
your old kernel and recomile it.

Neil Guinto wrote:

> I have Red Hat 7.0 installed on my computer.  I'm trying to configure the
> kernel to put drivers for my network card.  After selecting the necessary
> drivers, I did 'make dep' - success, 'make clean' - success, but the
> following are the errors(sniffet) returned by 'make bzImage';
>
> make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
> make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
> make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2
>
> I am a newbie linux user, and my project is to connect this linux machine to
> my private network of windows machines.  Appreciate your time and help.


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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why does Sndconfig lock up on me?
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:35:26 -0900

sounds like you have a dma or irq problem.  you should be able to fix
it(if its on board) in your bios.

tom wrote:

> Okay, nobody in the Mandrake group can/will help me, so I'll try here.
>
> I'm using Mandrake 7.1 .  Twice I've tried running sndconfig from the
> command line.  (X is not running) Both times, it tells me that it has
> detected my sound "card" (Yamaha OPL3-Sa3 built in to the motherboard).
> However, once I get this message, the cursor plants itself down in the
> lower left corner and nothing else happens.
>
> When I've tried listening to cd's, they play but there's no sound.
> When I try listening to .wav's or .mp3's, there's a loud static and no
> music. (I did kind of hear a snippet of the voice in DrakConfig's sound
> setup.)
>
> Tom
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/


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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Configuring Sound
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:45:40 -0900

the first version of 6 came out with (i don't remember what kernel version)
but it didn't support the sblive.  you'll have to look around for it, but
there is a great howto on linuxnewbie on how to download, compile, and install
that card.

sorry couldn't be more help.

Ben wrote:

> I am using Red Hat 6.
>
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, dont work wrote:
>
> > which version of linux you using
> >
> > i got an sblive value and mdk and rh picked it up no probs
> >
> >
> > "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.GSO.4.10.10012152323010.14989-100000@iwaki...
> > > Hi,
> > >    I have a Creative AWE 64 16-bit Audio (SB16 compatible) sound card.
> > > I have unsucessfully tried to configure sound many times.
> > > I used sndconfig to configure sound, it works but I get error messages
> > > when my system is booting up. The error is that it says something has
> > > failed when it tried to start up the sound related processes.
> > >
> > > Also when I play mp3's on Winamp I get the message: "decode loop" when
> > > winamp forwards to the next mp3 to be played.
> > >
> > > Can someone please tell me the best way to configure such a sound card.
> > > I have also read the mini howto for AWE cards which states that this
> > > has a low level driver and needs to be configured in a special way.
> > > I am using Red Hat 6.
> > >
> > > any help is greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Arun
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >


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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: --MARK-- in messages log
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 09:20:58 GMT

Nigel Sim wrote:
> 
> I would like to know what puts the -- MARK -- in my /var/log/messages
> file at 20 minute intervals. I figure it is so you can tell when the
> system stalled or something like that. Anyway I would like to know how
> to control it, ie change the interval or turn it off.
> Thanks
> Nigel

Yes, it's a time stamp. see the -m option for syslogd, man syslogd.

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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need insights into Slackware setup....
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:48:36 -0900

during installation, create a 12mb /boot partition.  start that at 0 and
work your way down.  this should clear up any confussion that lilo is
having with your hd accounting

Bob the old greybeard wrote:

> I am trying to set up a slackware 7.1 box and am missing the boat in
> getting LILO set up correctly.  I mostly use BSD/AIX/Solaris boxes
> and it has been several years since I last installed a Linux box.
> On setting up the partitions, I use the entire disk, starting root
> at cylinder 0.  Everything installs fine, but, when I get to the
> point of installing LILO, it errors out with a file system full
> error 139 thing, and won't write the boot properly.  Reboot dumps
> registers all over the screen, indicating that it really did not
> write a boot sector.  On the install I chose it to write to the mbr,
> and was expecting it to write sector 0, properly.  I noticed that
> there was also an option to write to another location or something
> like that rather than the mbr.  Which should be used?  What I want
> is no dualboot loader of any kind, but only boot directly into Linux.
> I don't want to have to use a boot floppy to correctly boot it up.
> Do I need to set the root partition to one cylinder in from the first
> cylinder so that LILO has room to write its boot blocks, or what?
> Any insights into the correct incantations are appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob


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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernal installation
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:55:58 -0900

run lilo, it should build  (rebuild) the /etc/lilo.conf

/usr/sbin/lilo

azim wrote:

>  Hi there,
>
>  I am trying to install Slackware 7.0.
>  I have placed an additional second Hard drive to intall Linux on. I booted
>  my PC with the Installation CDROM, Followed all the steps. Everything was
>  fine. When i tried to configure my LILO i found out that there was no
>  Lilo.confg file in the /etc/ directory. Somebody told me that i have not
>  installed LINX Kernal. I went back to the setup and started from the step
>  where you select the programs to install. Indeed i had chosen for "K"
>  which means Kernal sources. I could not finde any option to install the
> kernal
>  itself. I have read in a book that there should be an option "Q" which
>  stands for the Kernal. I could'nt find this option.
>
>  Could u please help me with that.
>
>  Azim
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/


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From: Skip S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: error on 'make bzImage', please help!
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:32:49 -0800

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:30:30 -0900, devren bennett wrote:

> do you have a bzImage file though??  If you do, things are probably fine. 
> just add that image to your lilo and try it, if it doesn't work, boot back
> in using your old kernel and recomile it.
> 
> Neil Guinto wrote:
> 
> > I have Red Hat 7.0 installed on my computer.  I'm trying to configure
> > the
> > kernel to put drivers for my network card.  After selecting the
> > necessary drivers, I did 'make dep' - success, 'make clean' - success,
> > but the following are the errors(sniffet) returned by 'make bzImage';
> >
> > make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
> > make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
> > make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> > make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
> > make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2
> >
> > I am a newbie linux user, and my project is to connect this linux
> > machine to
> > my private network of windows machines.  Appreciate your time and help.
> 
Nope Neil... (Nice try though :)
I've seen the exact error he is seeing. It comes less than a minute into 
the make. It is a problem with the 7.0 kernel files. They won't build 
unless you either start with a 'make mrproper' or turn on muli-processors. 
There is apparently some bogus configuration info hanging out in the 
released files. But the mrproper cleans it up.

Skip S.


-- 
If we are what we eat, I'm fast, cheap and easy, with cheese.

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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hard disk not recognised by RH7.0
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:00:44 -0900

check and make sure your bios isn't trying to make the hd do ata/100.

David Shoham wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The installation program of RH7.0 doesn't recognize my hard disk, which is
> connected to the DMA/66 connector and not the standard ide one. Any
> suggestions ?
>
> Thanks David


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From: Skip S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help loading ftape module
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:47:53 -0800

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:39:20 GMT, Gary Butler wrote:

> 
> I would like to ask for help in installing the ftape koad module.
> 
> I just finished loading Linux 2.2.13 and it seems to be running fine.
> I them loaded the ftape.o module to enable the tape drive and tried
> the "mt" command with no success.
> 
> The following is the sequence I completed.
> 
> insmod /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/ftape.o
> lsmod
> Module        Size    Used by
> ftape.o       104116  0 (unused)
> mt -f /dev/rft0 retension
> /dev/rft0: No such file or directory
> 
> I ran ls -l of the /dev directory looking for the rft devices and they
> were listed as follows:
> crw-r----- 1 root disk 27, {0-7} {n}rft{0-7}
> 
> rmmod ftape.o
> rmmod: module ftape.o not loaded
> 
> I have tried everything I can think of with no success, hopefully someone
> can come up with a definitive answer.
> 
> Thanks in Advance
> 
> Gary T. Butler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Gary,
It sounds like the module is running into problems and removing itself. 
After you do the insmod do 'tail /var/log/messages' and look for error 
messages.
Sorry it is not a fix, just an idea of where to look for error messages.

Good luck!

Skip S.
-- 
If we are what we eat, I'm fast, cheap and easy, with cheese.

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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suggest me one which can handle multiple POP3 email addresses?
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:15:20 -0900

another thing you might try.  if your secondary email accounts are running unix
or linux  you can .forward all of your email to your primary account, then just
have your email prog....maybe netscape...check that one account.

you have to telnet into your accounts, and run a command like this:

echo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .forard

just an idea....i haven't been able to find any decent multiple pop email progs


Michael Perry wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:15:40 +0900, news <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I have installed RedHat 6. It's working fine. The KDE can handle dialup very
> >efficiently. But I need an email client. I have visited the site.
> >
> >
> >can anyone suggest me one which can handle multiple POP3 email addresses?
> >
> >Thank you in advance.
> >
> >Joarder
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> There are a lot of ways to do this.  I have heard that the new Kmail in KDE
> 2.0.1 does this well.  I tend to use a console mailer like mutt and setup
> different accounts for myself for the different email accounts.  One split I
> have is easy.  I decided to build a work system and segregate all my work
> email to that box.  Then you will need something like fetchmail which will
> fetch email from multiple PoP accounts.  Others probably use some procmail
> cleverness to deal with this.
>
> The combination I use is exim + procmail + fetchmail + mutt.  They all seem
> to like each other pretty well and they all work together.  I learned how to
> write rewrite rules in exim so I can masquerade the envelope headers a bit
> and I also learned a little about writing muttrc files to take advantage of
> some things that mutt does well.   All I needed to do was write a
> fetchmailrc file which would "poll" several mail servers at set times.  I
> found this in man fetchmail.  Many of these things happened some years ago;
> but I imagine the approach is still the same :)
>
> In essence my email table is:
>
> exim - smtp services to relay mail to a smarthost smtp server
> fetchmail - to get pop3 email from several servers I have accounts on
> procmail - moves mail into folders, deletes other mail, does yet other
>         hings
> mutt - pretty capable console-based mail reader
>
> --
> Michael Perry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ------------------


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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to know when last accessed ....
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:19:03 -0900

try

last <usrname>

Bulent Sarinc wrote:

> with pop3
> telnet
> ftp
>
> at all how to know when a user has accessed last time the server with
> any protocol.
>
> finger -m <username> doesn't tell much
>
> thanx in advance
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual boot WinME + Linux
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:50:53 +0100

> Regarding LILO...   how do you get it to load WinME by default and
> Linux by choice (as it is the other way around on my system at the
> moment, and I am not ready as yet to move over to Linux completely)? ?
>

take a look at the file /etc/lilo.conf
I think you'll find it obvious on how to change this.
(otherwise `man lilo`, `info lilo` and `man lilo.conf` can be of some help)

Remember to run /sbin/lilo after you made an changes to /etc/lilo.conf, or
else the changes will not have effect.

Eric



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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: About Starting ONE kernel from WITHIN another?
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:22:23 -0900

try vmware...that should do it.  isn't free though

Igor wrote:

> In DOS, there is a program LOADLIN.EXE, which allows me to start
> an arbitrary version of linux from within DOS.
>
> What I want is to be able to start (switch to) another version
> of kernel from within linux itself. I do not mean just switching
> a kernel at runtime with all apps still running, I understand
> that it is impossible. I would like to just kind of boot to another
> server.
>
> The reason for it is that I have a remote colocated server on which I
> would like to try various kernels. But I want it to boot to a stable
> version of linux. So I cannot just go around and modify lilo.conf all
> the time.
>
> Any idea?
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