Linux-Setup Digest #231, Volume #21              Tue, 15 May 01 12:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Suspend-to-RAM on Linux (Kwan Lowe)
  HELP !!! Problem with SCSI Tape ("Ikkoku")
  Re: urgent help needed on kerneld (Kwan Lowe)
  Re: help with disabling scsi detection (Kwan Lowe)
  Re: My kernel won't boot properly...help?  <>?{} (Eggert Ehmke)
  Re: Using fetchmail/procmail with Outlook Express ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  HP DDS-2 DAT + Autoloader ("JP")
  What happened to.... ("JP")
  RH 7.1 2.4 ("JP")
  Re: X stratup failure (Slawomir Tomaszewski)
  Re: What happened to.... (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes (Dean Thompson)
  Re: filename contains ":" characters in scp? (Erik Max Francis)
  Dell Optiplex 110 or Call Linux (Edward Iglesias)
  Re: filename contains ":" characters in scp? (Raymond Chui)
  Re: "I/O error" reading CD (Mark_Harju)
  Re: Problem compiling Ed-0.2 ("Michael Pye")
  Re: Using fetchmail/procmail with Outlook Express (H.Bruijn)
  Re: filename contains ":" characters in scp? (Erik Max Francis)

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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suspend-to-RAM on Linux
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:18:58 GMT

In comp.os.linux.setup Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is Suspend-to-RAM (STR) supported on Linux?  If it is would appreciate pointers
> to the docs.

I was unable to get it working on a Dell Inspiron 3500 w/Mandrake 8.0 (Kernel
2.4.3). However, following the docs on Linux on Laptops I managed to get the
suspend to disk working. 

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From: "Ikkoku" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP !!! Problem with SCSI Tape
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:25:40 GMT

I'm very happy of my Linux System, but..., yes exist a but, I have connect
on my second channel (complety free) on a Adaptec 3200S RAID controller
(certfied for Linux RedHat 6.2 that I have installed succeful and that in
the first channel SCSI have 6 HD and running without problems) a DAT Sony
11000, SCSI Wide -68 pin connector-, but don't function, or better, the tape
is correctly view from controller with correct SCSI ID but don't function
any type of command for use (like tar, cpio, etc.), will hang and the tape
remain blocked into te drive. Before the Sony tape drive exist a HP tape
drive with the same SCSI ID and will function correctly without problems.
The only difference is that This HP tape is a SCSI normal -50 pin connector-
with a adapter from 50pin to 68pin. The cable for connect the tape to
controller was a classical internal 68 pin. The SCSI ID of tape is ID 3.
The error on the dmesg, is: "Unable to get major 9 for SCSI Tape".
Same person can help me, please ?
Thank you in advance.







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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: urgent help needed on kerneld
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:26:15 GMT

Jo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone;

> I just installed Redhat linux 5.2 on my sony vaio notebook.  When I try to
> configure ppp and sound , it complains that my kernel does not support it.
> So I try to run kerneld from control panel, I got the following error:

> Starting kerneld; veriosn 2.1.85(pid 383)
> I am sorry, but your /boot/module-info-2.0.36 file is missing and I cannot
> do without it.

> I checked the said directory and find the following files:
> /boot/System.map-2.0.36-0.7
> /boot/module-info-2.0.36-0.7
> /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
>  and three other binary files.

> I was able to read the System.map-2.0.36-0.7 and module-info-2.0.36-0.7

> Could somebody help?


Do a uname -r and verify that /boot contains a module-info-KERNEL_VERSION. 
You might also try symlinking /boot/module-info to module-info-KERNEL_VERSION
(of course, replace KERNEL_VERSION with the output from uname -r).

BTW, why are you running such an old distro? It's possible that your sound is
not even supported with that version. 

Also, check out the Linux on Laptops page for useful information.







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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help with disabling scsi detection
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:28:44 GMT

rm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have an intel motherboard with a built in adaptec 7896scsi controller.
> When I boot from the redhat 7.1 cd it says detecting loading adaptec 7xxx
> driver
> and it hangs there indefinately.  I use ide drives and do not have any scsi
> drives and would
> like to disable setup from detecting the chipset.  Thanks,

The SCSI drivers usually can be disabled from the BIOS. I.e., press the DEL key
as the system first boots. You should have an option for something like
"Integrated Peripherals" or similar. Disable SCSI there.




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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: My kernel won't boot properly...help?  <>?{}
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:36:10 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 15 May 2001 19:47:53 +1000, Andrew Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I've just installed RedHat 7.0 with kernel 2.2.16-22 I think it is.
>I've downloaded the source for 2.4.4 and managed to compile it, doing
>the following:
...
Read the /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes file. There are some packages
you ***must*** upgrade. At least you need the matching modutils.



--
Eggert Ehmke
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Using fetchmail/procmail with Outlook Express
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:27:19 +0100
Reply-To: no_replyto@oursite

This message has been posted by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Ewart)

On Tue, 15 May 2001 13:16:10 GMT, Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn) wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
>>
>Would I need procmail if for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wants to mail 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since the two users have email accounts locally the mail 
>should be delivered locally and not sent out to the ISP. On the other hand, 
>if [EMAIL PROTECTED] mails [EMAIL PROTECTED], then the email would be sent 
>out through the ISP.

I solved this problem by adding entries to /etc/aliases (I'm using
sendmail).  If you configure sendmail with an additional "A" flag, you
can alias an "external" address to an internal one, e.g.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:         joe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:        mary

This way you can use "real" email addresses but keep all the traffic
local.  Any address not found in the /etc/aliases file is treated as a
truly external address and will get sent to your ISP.

I can supply more details if you have specific questions.

Dave.
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outgoing news server and I have no control over them.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computing Manager
ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK

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From: "JP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP DDS-2 DAT + Autoloader
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:44:16 +0100

I have a DDS-2 DAT drive with a 6 cartridge autoloader connected to an
Adaptec AHA 2920 SCSI controller.

RH 7.0 can see the DAT drive (ID#3) but I can't manage to change tapes using
the command line and the only way I can change tapes is by pushing the
button on the front.

Can anyone help?

Regards

Jules



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From: "JP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What happened to....
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:52:09 +0100

I'm having a "play" with RH7.1 before I put this on my main server but can't
find linuxconf anywhere.

Are there only X based configuration utilities now? (I only use the box as a
server and dont have X running) or are there any curses based configuration
utilities left. I'm hoping I've missed something of the install or linuxconf
is now had a name change, Id rather not go back to editing files manually if
I can help it.

TIA

Jules



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From: "JP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 7.1 2.4
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:58:06 +0100

I'm now trying to compile a fresh install of RH7.1 to have LVM support and
get to grips with iptables etc on a DELL laptop (don't want to trash my
"live" box).

I used to use make bzlilo but that appears to have changed to make install,
unfortunately, on booting the new kernel the system hangs.

Can anyone point me in the right direction for compiling 2.4. I seem to have
lost the plot with this version of Linux at the moment and need to find my
feet.

I'm also after some information on converting ipchains to iptables.

Cheers,

Jules



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From: Slawomir Tomaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X stratup failure
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:10:09 -0400

On Tue, 15 May 2001, David Efflandt wrote:

> On Mon, 14 May 2001, Slawomir Tomaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > When I boot up my Red Hat 6.2 box and login as a regular user, the X will
> > not start, displaying message:
> > 
> > Authentication failed - cannot start X server.
> > Perhaps you do not have console ownership?
> > 
> > This happens even if I am an only user logged in. root (and only root)
> > can start X normally.
> > When I upgraded to RH 6.2, initially the sustem worked properly, and
> > suddenly failed without me having changed anything in its configuration!
> > Can anybody help me with this?
> 
> Check permission and ownership of X related files in the user's home dir.  
> It sounds like you may have done an 'su' then startx as root, but with the 
> user's environment.  You should use 'su -' instead if doing something as 
> root so you have root's env.
> 
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> 
> 
I must have been unclear about the problem. As a root I can do startx, but
not as a regular user. Anytime I try to do startx as a regular user,
(even after a fresh reboot) I get the same odd error message. I have an
impression that PAM authentication is playing tricks against me, but know
to little about it to fix it. In particular PAM is used by X to check for
console logins and is supposed to deny starting for network logins. This
looks consistent with the error message I get, but why PAM thinks I don't
owe the console after a console login?

Thanks,
Slawek Tomaszewski


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: What happened to....
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:10:31 GMT

On Tue, 15 May 2001 15:52:09 +0100, "JP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I'm having a "play" with RH7.1 before I put this on my main server but can't
>find linuxconf anywhere.
>
>Are there only X based configuration utilities now? (I only use the box as a
>server and dont have X running) or are there any curses based configuration
>utilities left.

Certainly, there are lots of curses based config utilities around: vi
and emacs are my two favourite config tools.

> I'm hoping I've missed something of the install or linuxconf
>is now had a name change, Id rather not go back to editing files manually if
>I can help it.
>
>TIA
>
>Jules
>
>


Lew Pitcher, Information Technology Consultant, Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:08:06 +1000


Hi!,

> How or where do you specify the -d flag to put the server into debug
> mode?

Depending on how your dhcp server is started, you may need to edit the file
/etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpd or dhcp (I am not sure what the file is).  Look for the
section of the file which is responsible for starting the DHCP server and then
add a "-d" to the line.  This will start the dhcp server in debug mode.
> 
> Will this also put sendmail into debug mode?

Nope, this is a different program altogether.  You might find that sendmail
already provides the logs that you require.  Take a look in your
/var/log/maillog file to see if the debugging information you require in there
is present.

See ya

Dean Thompson

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From: Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: filename contains ":" characters in scp?
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:12:23 -0700

Raymond Chui wrote:

> Shall ssh 2.5 solved this bug? Thank you!

It's not a bug.  scp sees colons as separating the hostname from the
remote filepath.  scp doesn't play well with colons in filenames. 
(Escaping the colons doesn't do anything; the shell isn't what's having
a problem with them, it's scp.)

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From: Edward Iglesias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dell Optiplex 110 or Call Linux
Date: 15 May 2001 15:25:47 GMT

After having an incredibly frustrating call with a Dell tech support person who told 
me to "call linux" I am doing just 
that.  It seems that Dell does not support any of its systems sold with Windows 98 if 
you choose to upgrade to Linux.  
This being the case, is there anyone out there with experience putting Linux Redhat 
6.2 on a Dell Optiplex 110.  
Xconfigure wont read the correct vga card (intel 810E Chipset) and the screen is 
apparently too new.  I have ordered 7.0 
but being an educational institution things go a bit slowly around here.  Any help 
would be appreciated.

-- 
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Librarian
Delgado Community College--West Bank

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From: Raymond Chui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: filename contains ":" characters in scp?
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:21:53 -0400

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"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:

>
>
> > when I do scp command, I try
>
> > scp myfile2001-05-15_09\:30\:00.txt userid@remote_host:dir_path/
>
> That's silly! There is no need to escape the ":". You are escaping it
> to the SHELL, not to the scp.
>
>
>
> It is not a bug.
>

Then why

cp myfile2001-05-15_09:30:00.txt dir_path/

work OK, but

 scp myfile2001-05-15_09:30:00.txt userid@remotehost:dir_path

not work?

because scp command sees the ":" character as separator for host name
and port number. If filename contains ":", it thinks as port number is 30 in
above case.

That is a problem in scp command!!

--Raymond


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From: Mark_Harju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "I/O error" reading CD
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:12:39 GMT

I'm afraid I don't have it in front of me. What puzzles me here is how
one of the two CDs can fail and generate I/O errors (once again, it's
lame, but reloading did fix the problem), but the other works alright.

I'm running the kernel that Mandrake 7.2 shipped with, whichever one
that is (I should have said that the box in question is at home, and I
don't have newsgroup access via my ISP).

The drive in question is SCSI, anyway. The IDE works fine. Thanks for
your advice.

My other issue is that looking in /var/log/messages shows that "esound"
(a package I loaded after the initial install), fails. "artsd", when
invoked, says "can't find /dev/(sound device) [my parentheses]".

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> 
> On Mon, 14 May 2001, Mark_Harju wrote:
> 
> > It's none of that. The darn thing just quits working. I dual-boot with
> > Win98. The CD works fine in Win98, but it dies in Linux. I'll have a
> > look with dmesg and /var/log/messages. Thanks
> 
> It could be a driver problem... What IDE controller do you have and what
> kernel are you running?
> 
> Rasmus
> 
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From: "Michael Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Problem compiling Ed-0.2
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:33:46 +0100

I think it is

ln -s "vi -e" ed

or similar. You would have to check the vi option first though. It might
only apply to vim... Check the help files...

MP

"Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3b00d790$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Mine didn't even compile outside of the chrooted environment.
> How would you create that symlink? ln -s ed vi -e?
> Michael Pye wrote in message ...
> >Apparently vi -e works the same as ed. I might just forget it and create
a
> >simlink to vi emulating ed.
> >
> >Annoying thing is, I get a different error each time. Once it even
compiled
> >correctly, but I wasn't in the chrooted environment so it was build
against
> >the wrong libraries. Never got it to work again though...
> >
> >MP
> >
> >"Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:3aff7f80$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Strange enough... I build a Linux from Scratch this weekend as well.
Got
> >the
> >> same problem, though I cannot remember the exact messages. I continued
to
> >> install the other software, and the machine is now completely
installed,
> >> except for ed. I've tried installing it now, once the machine is fully
> >> installed, but no luck, same problem.
> >>
> >> Maybe, if you have the exact make error messages, you should post them
to
> >a
> >> forum on www.linuxfromscratch.org, or open a bug report for it, or
> >> something.
> >>
> >> Please let me know what you do, since I need to get this resolved as
> well.
> >>
> >> Michael Pye wrote in message ...
> >> >I'm building a Linux from Scratch system and I am receiving an error
> >about
> >> a
> >> >function being defined twice while making Ed-0.2
> >> >
> >> >I have tried the copy from both the LFS site and the GNU site, but
> >neither
> >> >will compile. I am using the latest versions of both gcc and the glibc
> >> >(2.95.3 and 2.2.2). I can't find any patches like the one used to
solve
> a
> >> >similar problem in the findutils-4.1 package.
> >> >
> >> >Has anyone else come across this or a way around it?
> >> >
> >> >Thanks
> >> >
> >> >MP
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Using fetchmail/procmail with Outlook Express
Date: 15 May 2001 15:50:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 15 May 2001 13:16:10 GMT, Mark Johnson allegedly wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn) wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
> 
>>> My wife's company (15 people in all) asked me if I would try to help
>>> them to build a local email server (only because I have been toying
>>> around with linux).  I told them that I would try to do some research
>>> on what is feasible but I'm very much a newbie.
>>
>>Not procmail; the linux machine will need to run a MTA (Mail Transport
>>Agent) commonly used are sendmail, postfix and qmail. The MTA takes an
>>incoming message and delivers it to the correct destination. That
>>destination can either be the mail-server of your internet provider,
>>which then delivers the message to it's final destination, or a local
>>mailbox. 
>>
> Would I need procmail if for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wants to mail 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since the two users have email accounts locally the mail 
> should be delivered locally and not sent out to the ISP. On the other hand, 
> if [EMAIL PROTECTED] mails [EMAIL PROTECTED], then the email would be sent 
> out through the ISP.

If the ISP supplies your (dial-up) account with a static IP-number, you can
do the following:
Make your linux server the primary MX record and use the mail-server of
the ISP as the secondary mail-server. This is done in the DNS records,
and probably something which your ISP needs to set up for the company.
When the linux server is online, all mail will directly be delivered to 
that machine. When the linux server is offline all mail is stored 
temporarily at the mail-server of your ISP. When you get back online, 
simply issue the etrn command and the ISP will start to send all your 
mail to the linux machine. This solves the whole two accounts problem,
as the ISP will only function as a relay, and also keeps all mail send 
within the office from needing to get out to the ISP; the
localmail-server simply is the final destination.

Eevn if you don't have a static IP-number you can still simply tell the
MTA that it is called foobarco.com and should accept all mail for
foobarco.com for local delivery. This requires no filtering at all.
As long as the linux server is used to send mail (configure it to relay
for all pc's in the office, and configure all OE settings to use the
linux server as SMTP host) that will prevent mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from going first to joe's mailbox at the ISP, it will now directly go to
joe's mailbox at the linux server.
In this setup you will still need to use fetchmail to pick-up all other
mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the ISP, as everyone else still delivers
their mail to the ISP.

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From: Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: filename contains ":" characters in scp?
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:58:06 -0700

Raymond Chui wrote:

> Then why
> 
> cp myfile2001-05-15_09:30:00.txt dir_path/
> 
> work OK, but
> 
>  scp myfile2001-05-15_09:30:00.txt userid@remotehost:dir_path
> 
> not work?
> 
> because scp command sees the ":" character as separator for host name
> and port number.

No, it separates the host name and remote path.  You specify a
non-standard port with the -P option.

> If filename contains ":", it thinks as port number is 30 in
> above case.

No, it is the way it is supposed to work.  Don't try to scp files that
contain colons.

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