Linux-Setup Digest #245, Volume #21 Thu, 17 May 01 02:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Raid A0 patch with Kernel 2.2.17 and ReiserFS
Re: fresh LILO stops at 'L' (Mark Bratcher)
Newbie question: How to set up gfax to work. ("A. S. Paragus")
Re: LILO 1024 cylinder limit (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Raid A0 patch with Kernel 2.2.17 and ReiserFS (Chris Cox)
PCMCIA Modem and Linuix ("TitoAnee")
Re: Re: In gvim is there any functionality like to show what all ("v.naga srinivas")
Re: Raid A0 patch with Kernel 2.2.17 and ReiserFS (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= David)
Re: RH6.2: How to connect term to COM1? (Mark A. Odell)
Kernel Panic message (Sonny)
Need Linux Consultant in Jacksonville, FL area for server setup
Re: num lock ("John Nicholls")
Re: num lock ("John Nicholls")
Root/install question (Spiro Philopoulos)
Help Needed With SCSI Card ("Support")
Re: How to integrate Oracle http Apache server (Oracle 8.1.7) with Apache come with
Redhat 7.1 (Dave Uhring)
Re: Root/install question (Dave Uhring)
kernel compilation problem ("chao cheng")
Re: Disk Druid -- What does "No Free Primary" mean? (Michael Perry)
Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes ("grendel")
Re: Linux Graphic workstation (Michael Perry)
Re: Datachute-PCI Slimscsi 1480 (David Hinds)
Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes (Dean Thompson)
Re: configure kernel-2.4.4 (Paul Kimoto)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Raid A0 patch with Kernel 2.2.17 and ReiserFS
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:39:40 -0700
I'll add another question to the thread. 2 of the developers I work with say
that reiserFS should be used for development because it is more robust then
ext2 and in the embedded system we are developed, the power frequently is
removed from the target system running Linux. As a consequence of the fact
that power can be removed at any time, there is no graceful shutdown of this
system. I am told by one of the developers that reiserFS will be the new
default file system in the next release of Linux. I wonder what some of the
developers here have to say about reiserFS and its reliability in a
situation where power can and will be removed frequently from an embedded
system.
"Cristov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9duai2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Does the Raid A0 patch for the 2.2.17 kernel fix whether or not ReiserFS
> will work with Raid5?
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: fresh LILO stops at 'L'
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 02:52:33 GMT
On Wed, 16 May 2001 13:23:41 GMT, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> took up
his/her discourse and spake:
>On Tue, 15 May 2001, leung wrote:
>
>>Check your hard drive configuration on CMOS/BIOS. Make sure it is
>>either auto (or consists of the correct parameters of your hard drive)
>
>It is on auto.
>
>I probably should make it clear also, that there is no error code after
>the letter 'L', and therefore the documentation cannot help much.
>
If you look at the documentation for LILO (which you should be able to
pull from the web even if you can't get Linux going), it explains what
phases the program is going through as it displays each letter in thye
word "LILO". From that, you might be able to figure out the problem.
--
Mark Bratcher
To reply direct, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
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Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: "A. S. Paragus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie question: How to set up gfax to work.
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 03:01:38 GMT
I am running RH 7.1 and have installed gfax 0.4.2. I have run the setup
and mgetty setup druid inclyded in the software. I am not sure how to
proceed from this point. I know it should be set up as a "printer"
queue, but I am lost here. The gfax manual did not come with the rpm I
used and the website for gfax does not show where I can get it.
Could someone enlighten me as to how to proceed.
TIA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: LILO 1024 cylinder limit
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 03:00:37 GMT
On Wed, 16 May 2001 08:38:40 +0200, Sven Bovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> took up
his/her discourse and spake:
>"Rene M�rten" wrote:
>>
>> Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >1. In the first 1024 block of the HDD
>> > >2. In the first ~8GB of the HDD if the BIOS can abstract disk sectors
>> for
>> > >LILO
>> >
>> > All wrong. LILO must beinstalled in the MBR (to be able to boot the
>> > system) or in the first sector of the partiition on which linux will
>> > boot if you intend to use a 3rd party loader. HOWEVER the partition
>> > holding the boot components for linux must reside below the 1023rd
>> > cylinder of the disk.
>>
>> Also wrong :=)
>> With the newest LILO you can boot from any position on your harddisk.
>
>IF your BIOS supports certain extensions to (IIRC) int13.
>
The BIOS has to be pretty old or an off-brand not to have the extensions.
I have an AMI BIOS from about 1993 and it has the extensions. I'm running
the new LILO with no problems with all my Linux partitions beyond cyl 1024.
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Mark Bratcher
To reply direct, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
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From: Chris Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Raid A0 patch with Kernel 2.2.17 and ReiserFS
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 03:03:08 GMT
Are you seriously asking a question here?.... or is this some kind
of joke.
You may want to have your "developers" rethink their design.
Have they done any embedded work before?
I'm not an expert by any means... but....
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I'll add another question to the thread. 2 of the developers I work with say
> that reiserFS should be used for development because it is more robust then
> ext2 and in the embedded system we are developed, the power frequently is
> removed from the target system running Linux. As a consequence of the fact
> that power can be removed at any time, there is no graceful shutdown of this
> system. I am told by one of the developers that reiserFS will be the new
> default file system in the next release of Linux. I wonder what some of the
> developers here have to say about reiserFS and its reliability in a
> situation where power can and will be removed frequently from an embedded
> system.
>
> "Cristov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9duai2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Does the Raid A0 patch for the 2.2.17 kernel fix whether or not ReiserFS
> > will work with Raid5?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
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From: "TitoAnee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: PCMCIA Modem and Linuix
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 02:59:42 GMT
I have linux version 2.2.17, Redhat 6.1 and Pcmica Card Server 3.1.25 and I
getting follwing with modem card.
May 16 18:57:56 TitoAnee kernel: Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.25
May 16 18:57:56 TitoAnee kernel: kernel build: 2.2.17 #14 Wed Sep 27
09:36:38 EDT 2000
May 16 18:57:56 TitoAnee kernel: options: [pci]
May 16 18:57:56 TitoAnee kernel: Intel PCIC probe:
May 16 18:57:56 TitoAnee kernel: Intel i82365sl A step rev 00
ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00
May 16 18:57:56 TitoAnee kernel: host opts [0]: none
May 16 18:57:56 TitoAnee kernel: host opts [1]: none
May 16 18:57:56 TitoAnee kernel: ISA irqs (default) =
3,5,7,9,10,12,14,15 polling interval = 1000 ms
[root@TitoAnee /dev]# May 16 18:57:57 TitoAnee cardmgr[1365]: starting,
version is 3.1.25
May 16 18:57:57 TitoAnee cardmgr[1365]: watching 2 sockets
May 16 18:57:58 TitoAnee cardmgr[1365]: initializing socket 0
May 16 18:57:58 TitoAnee cardmgr[1365]: socket 0: Serial or Modem
May 16 18:57:58 TitoAnee kernel: cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff:
clean.
May 16 18:57:58 TitoAnee cardmgr[1365]: executing: 'modprobe serial_cs'
May 16 18:57:59 TitoAnee cardmgr[1365]: bind 'serial_cs' to socket 0
failed: Operation not permitted
Any suggestions:
Warm Regards
TitoAnee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("v.naga srinivas")
Subject: Re: Re: In gvim is there any functionality like to show what all
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 03:11:29 +0000 (UTC)
Yah, thats Ok, the answer helped me..
Still i want a feature like, i have opened 10 files say(c files).
I have a function, say function1(), here my requirement is
can i search(find) where all the function1() being using in all 10 c
files..
so that, i can better understand the project flow and all..
If anybody familiar with EDforWindows, Windows Editor....You can give
search
for the files existing in the buffer( those are already opened..)
and can search through a given directory..like that..
Can you give any help on this.....
thanks in advance..
regards,
srinivas.
http://www.nagasrinivasv.com
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Raid A0 patch with Kernel 2.2.17 and ReiserFS
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 05:03:20 +0200
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> I'll add another question to the thread. 2 of the developers I work with say
> that reiserFS should be used for development because it is more robust then
> ext2 and in the embedded system we are developed, the power frequently is
> removed from the target system running Linux. As a consequence of the fact
> that power can be removed at any time, there is no graceful shutdown of this
> system. I am told by one of the developers that reiserFS will be the new
> default file system in the next release of Linux. I wonder what some of the
> developers here have to say about reiserFS and its reliability in a
Check http://www.namesys.com/ for Reiserfs
> situation where power can and will be removed frequently from an embedded
> system.
Power shouldn't be removed frequently from any system relying on it.
If you have it going that way, I'd think it's a bad design ...
But it's your project.
Cheers, Andre
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark A. Odell)
Subject: Re: RH6.2: How to connect term to COM1?
Date: 17 May 2001 03:21:18 GMT
Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
news:9dv8so$ald$[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> Such a simple thing but I can't figure it out (I'm a Microsoft user so
>> please forgive my ignorance). All I want to do is have terminal window
>> that can connect to a comm port in the PC, COM1: or COM2: would be fine.
>> I need to see the comm port to 115.2K-8-N-1. Is this possible? Easy to
>> do?
>
> you seek 'minicom'.... It is relativley easy to do.
Indeed I found this with a Google search, however, I thought I could just
invoke an xterm with some -ttyS1 -b115200 -c "8N1" option and do it that way.
Anyhoo, lowly ole me, An NT/2000 die-hard, was able to get minicom built,
installed, and configured in about 10 minutes. It did the trick. Thanks for
the help.
--
- Mark ->
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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,
From: Sonny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel Panic message
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 03:22:56 GMT
Can anyone suggest what might be causing the following message:
"kernel panic: skput: over: 00149978: 1024"
I'm running a list server (Qmail/Ezmlm) on an i586 with Redhat 5.2. Everything
had been working fine and suddenly (without a reboot in a month) I started
getting the kernel panic every hour or so. Any pointers on what to look for in
order to solve this would be very much appreciated.
Thank you,
Sonny
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need Linux Consultant in Jacksonville, FL area for server setup
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 04:38:13 GMT
If you are in Jacksonville, Florida and have experience setting up /
configuring RH 7.1 servers, I could use your help. We are currently
running a RH 6.1 box and need to migrate to our new 7.1 servers that we
just took delivery on. Since I'm a linux novice, I need someone
physically present to do the setup and configuration on the server - then
to migrate our existing data from the current server.
This isn't anything hard - I just need the servers up and running with
network / internet connectivity, DNS, Apache, Email, etc - the standard
RH fare. I don't have enough experience to do this myself, so I'm
looking to hire some talent temporarily. IP's aren't a problem, we've
got half a Class C, neither is bandwidth for the transfer, we have a T1.
Also, don't worry about room, our host won't care as long as the servers
fit within the rack at the end of the day.
The consultants I talked to in Atlanta said it wouldn't be worth the
drive down - it's just an afternoon's worth of work. Which, while is
reassuring, doesn't get my servers up and running.
If you can help me, or know of anyone in the Jacksonville, Florida area,
please respond via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh yeah, remove the nospayam and the dashes... duh.
Phone numbers will be provided upon request. If you'd prefer bartering
instead of money, heck, we can do that to. We have lots of cool sharp
things.
Anyhow, thanks in advance for any assistance anyone can provide.
Kevin
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From: "John Nicholls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: num lock
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:35:45 +1000
In article <pcIL6.60037$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brian Crouch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I make num lock on a default on boot?
Look for a program numlockx which is designed for just this purpose.
John
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From: "John Nicholls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: num lock
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:35:44 +1000
In article <pcIL6.60037$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brian Crouch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I make num lock on a default on boot?
Look for a program numlockx which is designed for just this purpose.
John
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From: Spiro Philopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Root/install question
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:35:00 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm new to Linux and I'm trying to install an application. When running
"make install" I get the following error message:
install -m 444 libnistnet.a /usr/local/lib
install: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/lib/libnistnet.a':
Permission de
nied
make[1]: *** [install] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/nistnet/lib'
make: *** [sub_inst] Error 2
I've su'ed in as root. I don't understand why I get a permission denied
error. Would it make a difference if I logged-in as root directly rather
than use su? Any info/help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in
advance.
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From: "Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help Needed With SCSI Card
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:35:12 +1000
i am pretty new to Linux Red Hat 7.0
i need a step by step guide to installing my scsi card
its a Future Domain TMC-950 ISA.... the system runs
fine under win98.... so all the hardware works....
i just cant seem to get the scsi card & drives to detect or work
please email help!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanx in advance!
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.database.oracle.server
Subject: Re: How to integrate Oracle http Apache server (Oracle 8.1.7) with Apache
come with Redhat 7.1
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 23:39:56 -0500
Huy Vu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying Oracle 8.1.7 database server on Redhat 7.1.
> There is Oracle http Apache server installation options in Oracle 8.1.7
> for Linux. I still thinking how can I integrate Oracle http Apache server
> with the one come from with Redhat 7.1.
>
> Does someone try it already?
>
> Thanks in advance for any advise.
>
> DH
Did you get Oracle 8.1.7 installed on RedHat-7.1? If you did, would you
mind sharing how you did it?
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Root/install question
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 23:42:26 -0500
Spiro Philopoulos wrote:
> I'm new to Linux and I'm trying to install an application. When running
> "make install" I get the following error message:
>
> install -m 444 libnistnet.a /usr/local/lib
> install: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/lib/libnistnet.a':
> Permission de
> nied
> make[1]: *** [install] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/nistnet/lib'
> make: *** [sub_inst] Error 2
>
>
> I've su'ed in as root. I don't understand why I get a permission denied
> error. Would it make a difference if I logged-in as root directly rather
> than use su? Any info/help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in
> advance.
>
>
When you are posting to more than one group at a time, please list all of
them under "Groups" and leave out your local NNTP server. I answered this
question for you in another group and now noone in this group can see the
answer because you posted to separate groups.
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From: "chao cheng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux
Subject: kernel compilation problem
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 05:14:32 GMT
Hello all,
After I compiled kernel 2.4.4 on my Pentium Dual 200 with SuSE 7.1, my
computer just freezes after the following lines:
SCSi subsystem driver revision 1.00
i9lu: PCI base = 0xfc00, irq=17, bios=oxc8000,scsi id = 7
i9lu: reset scsi bus
scsi0: initio INI-9x00 u.uw scsi device driver; revision1.03g
vendor: seagate model st15230w sun4.3g rev:0738
type:direct access ansi:scs revision:02
ini9100u: 13 0
scsi channel0: resetting for second half of retries.
scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0
scsi host0 channel 0 reset (pid0) timeout -tryharder
scsi is being reset for host 0 channel 0
I did select the initio 9100 scsi driver during the process. However, it
works fine with kernel 2.2.18 though. Can someone help? thanks!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Disk Druid -- What does "No Free Primary" mean?
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 05:17:09 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 16 May 2001 23:30:07 -0000, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, I'm using Disk Druid b/c for some reason when installing Linux, I
> can use the automatic partitioning feature. So now that I have figured
> out how to use Disk Druid, there is still a little problem. First I
> create my boot and swap partitions. Then I create the boot partition
> using the remaining space. However, I keep getting a "No Free Primary"
> error with the swap partition. Any ideas? Thanks.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
How many primary partitions does the disk already have? Any assigned to
other operating systems? How about printing out the organization of your
hard disk drive for all to see here?
--
Michael Perry
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From: "grendel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 05:04:42 GMT
I think the network card powers down after awhile and that's what's
happening. Could this cause the loss of DNS settings. (meaning it changed
resolv.conf) This stopped working while using this and sometimes it works in
the GUI so it's not a run level issue. All I can think is a lower down
issue. This happens on the same machine (network card powers down) if I
leave it alone for awhile.
"Dean Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Hi!,
>
> > I do not run a DHCP server. I am a client not a server. I can not put in
> > the server in debug mode since it's sitting at my ISP.
>
> But of course you could put your dhcp client into debug mode couldn't you
?
>
> See ya
>
> Dean Thompson
>
> --
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Linux Graphic workstation
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 05:20:33 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 15 May 2001 21:54:44 +0800, Wayne Osborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Michael Perry"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
><snip>
>> At work, we have a dualie amd box. Gonna check it out today. I
>> actually bought a duplicate system from the same vendor because they
>> make really nice barebones AMD systems and cheaply. This one is gonna
>> be a work box. When I compared the price points for intel versus amd,
>> very enlightening. I think the AMD stuff kicks intel's butt around the
>> room a few times in a lot of areas.
>>
> Sorry for butting in here, what mobo is that dual amd box using?
>
> Looking forward to dual amd linux box from hell.
> --
> Wayne A. Osborn, SCADA Engineer.[dnar AT iinet DOT net DOT au]
> Registered Linux User #212818. [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
> 9:50pm up 9:46, 2 users, load average: 4.95, 4.86, 4.44
> ...As of next Thursday, UNIX will be flushed in favor of TOPS-10.
> Please update your programs.
I forgot to look at work. I'll post it here as a followup.
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Michael Perry
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From: David Hinds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Datachute-PCI Slimscsi 1480
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 05:27:36 GMT
In comp.os.linux.portable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I got linux to recongize my datachute-pci card adatper. When I insert my adaptec
> Slimscsi card I get the following error.
> initializing socket 0
> unsupported card in socket 0
> cs: no valid ROM images found!
What were the startup messages from the PCMCIA drivers?
-- Dave
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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:43:33 +1000
Hi Grendel,
> I think the network card powers down after awhile and that's what's
> happening. Could this cause the loss of DNS settings. (meaning it changed
> resolv.conf) This stopped working while using this and sometimes it works
> in the GUI so it's not a run level issue. All I can think is a lower down
> issue. This happens on the same machine (network card powers down) if I
> leave it alone for awhile.
Sounds like you might have to disable the power management facilities in your
BIOS. There might be a way of disabling just the power down on the LAN card.
However, it might be more beneficial to just disable all your APM support in
the BIOS.
See ya
Dean Thompson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: configure kernel-2.4.4
Date: 17 May 2001 02:03:52 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <onEM6.3416$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
> Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In article <9dt3nt$5vp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Angry Bob wrote:
>>> ln -s /usr/include/linux /usr/src/linux/include/linux
>>>
>>> you may have to delete what was once there (in
>>> /usr/include/linux)
>> This is wrong. /usr/include/linux, which is used when building userspace
>> programs, should correspond to the headers used when libc was built.
>> The path /usr/include/linux should not be used when building kernels and
>> modules; /PATH/TO/KERNEL/SOURCE/include/linux should be used instead.
> Actually, this is wrong. what you're basically saying, is that you
> can't upgrade a kernel's headers, and basically the source tree, unless
> you upgrade libc. Since /usr/include/linux is a symbolic link to
> /usr/src/linux/include/linux, this will not matter.
The kernel README says:
: Do NOT use the /usr/src/linux area! This area has a (usually
: incomplete) set of kernel headers that are used by the library header
: files. They should match the library, and not get messed up by
: whatever the kernel-du-jour happens to be.
And the Debian libc6 README.Debian says:
: Q1: Why does the Debian libc6-dev package create /usr/include/linux and
: /usr/include/asm directories containing header files from a specific
: kernel, instead of using the "established" convention of making those
: directories into symlinks pointing to the currently installed kernel?
:
: A1: Occasionally, changes in the kernel headers cause problems with
: the compilation of libc and of programs that use libc. To ensure that
: users are not affected by these problems, we configure libc to use the
: headers from a kernel that is known to work with libc and the programs
: that depend on stable kernel headers.
These agree: /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm should be affected
by your choice of libc, not your choice of kernel. That means that
/usr/include/{linux,asm} should _not_ merely be symbolic links into the
kernel source tree that you have chosen to compile most recently.
> The PROPER thing to do, would be to
[compiling the kernel, snipped]
> But since this is the kernel that you are wanting to compile,
> forget 8) and then compile your kernel as normal. somehow, your symbolic
> link from /usr/src/linux/include/linux to /usr/include/linux was lost.
> That is recreated, when you do a make mrproper.
No, "make mrproper" removes things:
: mrproper: clean archmrproper
: find . \( -size 0 -o -name .depend \) -type f -print | xargs rm -f
: rm -f $(MRPROPER_FILES)
: rm -rf $(MRPROPER_DIRS)
: $(MAKE) -C Documentation/DocBook mrproper
When you "make {,old,menu,x}config", the symbolic link include/asm is
re-established.
/usr/src/linux/include/linux is a directory, not a symbolic link.
No part of the kernel-building process puts symbolic links in /usr/include.
(Putting these symbolic links is something you need to do IF your
distribution choses to use that convention, but for some reason has failed
to do so when you installed the libc development package.)
--
Paul Kimoto
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