Linux-Setup Digest #253, Volume #21 Fri, 18 May 01 03:13:06 EDT
Contents:
How to make llinux shares accessible to MAC users. (Mark Johnson)
Cd Writing Problem w/XCdroast (don keith)
Re: Suspend-to-RAM on Linux (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Re: Linux software installation problems (holcomb)
Re: HP DDS-2 DAT + Autoloader ("Gene Heskett")
Re: Redhat 7.1: Whay linuxconf not run on KDE? ("Gene Heskett")
Re: Redhat 7.1: Whay linuxconf not run on KDE? ("Gene Heskett")
Re: VCD player for Linux ("Pavan")
Re: Any way to set up Linux so that changing the IDE channel of the HD doesn't
require surgery? (Lucius Chiaraviglio)
Re: What is logging me out of consoles while running X ? (martin rogers)
Journalling filesystem in RedHat 7.1 at install? (max)
Re: How do I update RH 7.1 correctly using RPMs? (J Hayward)
Re: linux loader doesn't load! (3FE)
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Subject: How to make llinux shares accessible to MAC users.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Johnson)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 04:01:24 GMT
Is there a way that I can create linux shares that are available to MAC
users just like I can using SAMBA for the Windows users?
If there is, are there any issues with doing backup of those shares or is
it straight-forward like the samba stuff?
At my office we have 50% windows and 50% MAC (OS9) and we are using
PCMACLAN for file sharing using a MAC file server. But we want to move the
file server to linux but I'm not sure if it will be possible because of the
MAC users....
Forcing the MAC users to use FTP for transfering files is out of the
question, it's a bit beyond their comprehension. I'm not saying anything
bad, it's just I fought that battle and lost miserably.
thanks for your help!
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From: don keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cd Writing Problem w/XCdroast
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:33:00 -0500
Xcdroast and KonCD that are provided with the Suse version 7.1 are going to
drive me nuts!
I have configured my system and files exactly as shown in the Suse
Application manual for Xcdroast and still can't burn a CD....
After reading the Howto's for writing cd's and the instructions for using
Atapi-IDE cd writers, I have been successful in getting both software
packages to "act" like they work....I can create a cd.image file or create
a master directory to write to cd, but when either program "writes" to the
cd nothing is ever put on the cd. What is really puzzling is that while the
cd is "writing" the red light comes on and I keep getting progress messages
from the software that every thing is OK(?)
My cdwriter is an Acer 8432A (ide)
Suse Linux v7.1 Kernel 2.4.0-4GB
Xcdroast v .98 alpha 7
KonCD v 0.6.2
KDE version 2.0.1
Pentium III 733mhz / 384mb ram / 30gb hard drive
tmp drive for cdwriting is /hda9/tmp
Here is how my cdrecord -scanbus reports:
Cdrecord 1.9 (i686-suse-linux) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.17
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI ' 'CD-R/RW 8X4X32 ' '5.EW' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
>From everything I have read regarding using an IDE cdwriter, this output is
what I would expect.,......
Any help would be appreciated!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Suspend-to-RAM on Linux
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 04:19:42 +0000 (UTC)
In article <3b01cfc3$0$14447$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 15 May 2001 13:31:40 +0000 (UTC), Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah
>staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>>Is Suspend-to-RAM (STR) supported on Linux? If it is would appreciate
>>pointers to the docs.
>
>I think the suspend function on most laptops is dependent on the
>hardware. For me, a large assortment of kernels, all compiled with APM
>support, worked with a Thinkpad 380D and a Thinkpad 600X. The command
>is "apm -s", but most laptops automagically invoke suspend-to-RAM when
>the lid is closed.
>
>Thinkpads have a number of options as to what they do when an APM
>suspend event occurs; "tpctl" can control them. Finally, if you give
>more information about your hardware, someone will probably be able to
>help you out more.
I'm using a desktop computer using a motherboard from Microstar model number
MS-6178 which has suspend-to-ram support. Does anyone have any experience
with this board with suspend-to-ram ?
Thanks.
Napi
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From: holcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux software installation problems
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 04:30:08 -0000
Darren LS wrote:
>
>
> Hi I am having problems installing just about anything on my linux box.
>
> I have redhat 5.2 Linux and I have has problems trying to upgrade its
> existing packages anyone required for me to do a build on the kernel or
> bluefish html editor. Two such packages are the latest versions of gcc
and
> tck. I followed the instructions for tck and did an install as it said
in
> the instructions and everything seemed to go ok but when I tried to
install
> bluefish it said I was using my old version so where had it put the new
> version and why had it not overwritten the old version with it? I
figured it
> was something to do with this usr/local directory which was not present
on
> my Linux system before hand so later when I tried to install the later
> version of gcc only forcing the base dir to /usr as opposed to
/usr/local I
> did a full compile then a 'make install' and it threw an error that a
> certain i586 directory below /usr/lib was not present so where had it
put
> everything?
>
> Thanks
>
> Yours going insane
> Darren
>
>
>
>
>
While I certainly agree with the claim that, unlike Windows, with Linux
you are not forced to upgrade to the latest version all the time, there
have been significant advances in Linux since RedHat 5.2. RedHat 7.1,
SUSE 7.1 or Mandrake 8.0 are just 3 of the choices you have. With these
distributions, the incompatibilities between all packages are worked out.
You can download them for free or buy a packaged version for around $30.
If $30 is more than you want to spend, and your internet connection makes
downloading impractical, you can buy a CD of your favorite distribution
from a site like www.linuxcentral.com for around $4 plus shipping. It
works out to about $9 total. Its ok to do manual upgrading for small
stuff or just because you want to get a better understanding of things,
but a lot of time can be saved with a distribution especially when you
are comming from 5.2. JH
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Date: 17 May 2001 22:37:12 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP DDS-2 DAT + Autoloader
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to JP ;
> "JP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:UUCM6.20986$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> What distro are you using? I can't find mtx anywhere!!
>>
>> Was it installed as part of an application?
> I know this is a bit sad when you reply to your own post but I just
> found the package at http://mtx.sourceforge.net/
> Thanks Gene for letting me know the utility existed!
Chuckle.
Well, it was almost on topic, I'm currently in the process of setting up
amanda, starting with just my office machine, but will graduate to a
Seagate ????86 with a 4 cart magazine full of dds-2 tapes. I figure if
I can get it working with a T4000s, I can make it work with mtx and the
Seagate changer. The amanda config howto/FAQ, on Frankenlinux.com,
seems to be undergoing almost daily updates.
Cheers, Gene
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Date: 17 May 2001 22:45:18 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.1: Whay linuxconf not run on KDE?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Tim Haynes;
TH> "Damaen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
TH> [snip]
>> > http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-7.1-Manual/release-notes/s1-sys
>> > tem.html
>> >
>>
>> Wow... thanks for the link... I had no clue. Not that I use it very
>> often... but it's nice for quick changes... That list had netscape 4.x
>> deprecated too... but I can't say I like Mozilla much. I still use 4.x, it
>> seems much faster on my machine. Oh well...
TH> I know the feeling, and think it'd be good to have it as a fall-back for
TH> a little while yet. There are just too many sites out there that don't
TH> grok Mozilla itself, but only look for IE or NS (I know, these sites are
TH> broken, I either mail the webmaster a load of abuse as they deserve or
TH> give up & go away...)
TH> An alternative, btw, is definitely Konqueror. It rocks, I figure. Mozilla
TH> is only just catching up with it - while some people were making noise &
TH> hot air, folks at KDE were making a browser.
Likewise for the final V5 of opera Tim, its fast, and even does some XML
stuff, but its downloading logic needs fine-tuning as issued, and it
screen resize re-render is totally busted, only solvable via the reload
button after the window size has been adjusted. I like it because you
can convert its history pulldown, which isn't forgotten when quitting,
can be expanded into one heck of a long hotlist in effect. I've set
mine to the last 1000 sites.
Its got some warts, but I still prefer it to konqeror, when backing up, its
a total screen recovery, instantly, whereas Konqeror has to redraw and
reposition, a much slower process.
Both know about wheel mice, something netscape hasn't heard about yet.
Cheers, Gene
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Date: 17 May 2001 23:26:9 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.1: Whay linuxconf not run on KDE?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to JP ;
> "Huy Vu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm trying Redhat 7.1 and setup KDE as default desktop and reset Firewall
>> level to no FireWall.
>>
>> After startup KDE control-panel, I tried to click on linuxconf icon but
> not
>> thing come up.
>>
>> Nothing happen in running linuxconf from run command menu or from kconsole
>> terminal.
>>
>> Does someone see this problem before?
> According to RedHat, linuxconf is depricated (something like that!) in this
> release so it's not part of the install which I found a bit annoying as I
> don't run X and there are no other real admin tools (except vi!).
> If you want Linuxconf you'll have to download it from
> http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/
Allow me to defend Jacques(sp) here, and to take RH to task in the same
message.
1. RedHat, for some unknown reason, has always shipped a version of
linuxconf that was at least a version of RH behind what was available
on the solucorp site. Sure, RH changes things faster than Jacques can
fix it, when you *_obviously_* have no open channel of communications,
thats bound to happen. IMO the channel is available, I've used it.
2. I recently had a DNS config problem that prevented linuxconf from
updating anything, it was too busy notifying me with a message to relay
such and such a file set to Jacques. That I did, and was very
pleasantly surprised to see a new version that fixed it all in about 30
hours. My amaturish attempts to setup a DNS were just fine BTW.
So go get the last one, 1.25r3 I think, maybe r4 by now, and see if it
can do what you want.
Cheers, Gene
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From: "Pavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VCD player for Linux
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:46:46 +0530
>
> Does anybody know of any full screen VCD player that works well on
> Linux and free? I have already tried mtv but unfortunately it's not
> free..
>
Try xine or mplayer.
http://xine.sourceforge.net
http://mplayer.sourceforge.net
-Pavan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lucius Chiaraviglio)
Subject: Re: Any way to set up Linux so that changing the IDE channel of the HD
doesn't require surgery?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 05:29:32 GMT
A few Fridays ago I posted a message asking how to set up a Linux installation
so that it can boot off both the primary and secondary IDE channels without
requiring surgery. Towards the end, I wrote about a possibly relevant
discovery I had stumbled upon:
> [. . .] Last Friday I was
>messing with a Red Hat 7.0 installation (as opposed to just the rescue mode of
>the installation CD) for the first time. I noticed that /etc/fstab has
>entries for hard disk partitions that begin with things like "LABEL=/" and
>"LABEL=/boot". Intrigued, I tried to find out about this, and came upon ext2
>disk labels, set by the "e2label" command. The upshot of this is that you can
>edit /etc/fstab to find partitions by their ext2 disk labels. For some
>reason, this option seems not to have been used in the Red Hat series before
>version 7.0, but version 6.2 has the e2label command, and I tried it on a
>MontaVista Hard Hat 1.1 system (almost the same as Red Hat 6.1), and the
>system boots and mounts its file systems properly, except that it keeps giving
>me this stupid error about one of the file systems being "already mounted"
>according to mtab (even after I deleted /etc/mtab). My best guess is that the
>"LABEL=" feature works almost right in earlier versions of the Red Hat series,
>but was only fixed to work completely right in version 7.0. I haven't yet had
>a chance to try moving that hard disk, though (I discovered this pretty late
>on Friday). If this does what I need, it will solve half of the problem; the
>remaining half of the problem will be to convince Lilo to point to the disk
>that it is on rather than where the disk used to be.
Well, I finally managed to sneak in an attempt at this, and IT WORKS!
Well, almost. The man page for Lilo gives no indication that Lilo supports
anything like the "LABEL=" syntax for specifying the boot device, so in order
to get somewhat equivalent function I have to duplicate each Linux stanza of
/etc/lilo.conf, with 1 copy of each stanza specifying -- for instance --
/dev/hda6 and the 2nd copy of each stanza specifying /dev/hdc6 (in the same
example). Naturally, if I were going to be moving hard disks between
machines with SCSI chains already containing a lot of other drives (for
instance, for moving around an installation tailored for SCSI system
diagnostics), this would get to be a real pain. Also, swap partitions do not
seem to support the "LABEL=" syntax even in /etc/fstab (or at least, I haven't
heard of any "swaplabel" program equivalent to "e2label", which refuses to
label swap partitions -- maybe I should just try typing "swaplabel /dev/hda5"
and see what happens :-) ). Thus, although this solution is better than
nothing, it is still not ideal.
Does anyone have any additional information to offer about this?
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From: martin rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: What is logging me out of consoles while running X ?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 06:07:13 GMT
David Efflandt wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2001, martin rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Something is logging me out of the console from which I started X, while
> > in X.
> >
> > I log in, start X, and later hit CTRL ALT F1 and I've been logged out.
> >
> > Anyone seen this?
> >
> > RH 6.2/6.0, KDE 1.X/2.X, XFree86 3.x/4.x
>
> I don't think so. I think you are just seeing messages from X in the
> console you ran startx from. There are typically 6 virtual terminals and
> X runs in #7. When you log out of X you should end up back in the vt you
> started it from, still logged in. If you use Ctrl-Alt-F# from X to go to
> one of the 6 consoles, you can get back to X with Alt-F7. But you cannot
> do anything in the one you ran startx from until you exit X.
>
> --
> David Efflandt (Reply-To is valid) http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
Nope.
I start X as:
startx -depth 32 >& ~/srt.x4.log &
and can return to that console anytime with CTRL ALT Fx and back with
CTRL ALT
F7 (or F5 in my case :) ) but eventually, upon a CTRL ALT Fx, I will find
that I have
to log in again on that console, X is unaffected. Happens all the time.
Hmm.
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From: max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Journalling filesystem in RedHat 7.1 at install?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:27:20 +0200
I would like to have a journalling filesystem installed on my partitions,
but RedHat doesn't support that (yet).
Will there be an updated 7.1 release which includes for support for
ReiserFS (or XFS) when installing RedHat? Or will this be in about 5 months
when 7.2 is due for release?
I can do it the 'hard' way and use SGI's XFS boot disk and then use kernel
patches for every kernel upgrade... but it would be nice to have an
official RedHat set.
max
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From: J Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I update RH 7.1 correctly using RPMs?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.security.misc
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:22:31 -0700
Hello,
>
> "George Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9e23sr$dhv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > If you have all the updated RPMS in the same directory just use:
>> >
>> > rpm -Fvh *.rpm
>> >
>> > The "F" means "freshen". This will install the updates only for the
>> > RPMS you already have installed.
>>
>> Thanks Jim, but in this case the results are the same:
>>
>> > rpm -Fvh arts-2.1.2-1.i386.rpm
>> error: failed dependencies:
>> arts = 2.1.1 is needed by kdelibs-sound-2.1.1-5
>>
>> So to upgrade this package, should I uninstall (rpm -e) arts-2.1.1 , then
>> install (rpm -U) arts-2.1.2? Is that the general process for upgrading
> any
>> package? Or will that have bad effects on the dependent packages? (in
> this
>> example, kdelibs-sound)
>>
>> Thanks.
My apologies, I should have explained this a little better. You need to use
"rpm -Fvh *.rpm" exactly, NOT rpm -Fvh filename on each rpm separately, if
the rpm you are trying to install has other dependencies. What "rpm -Fvh
*.rpm" will do is look at ALL the rpms in the directory you use it on and
it will automatically pull in any dependencies if they are in the same
directory.
You can list more then one rpm at a time also if you don't want to use
*.rpm. Example:
rpm -Fvh arts-2.1.2-1.i386.rpm kdelibs-sound-2.1.2-1.i386.rpm
or you can use the wild card * again. Example:
rpm -Fvh arts* kde* netscape*
You should NEVER use rpm -Fvh or rpm -Uvh to update your kernel rpms. Read
this HOWTO on how to update kernel rpms.
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/howto/kernel-upgrade/kernel-upgrade.html
Regards,
Jim H
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3FE)
Subject: Re: linux loader doesn't load!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 06:42:34 GMT
On Wed, 2 May 2001 08:14:08 +0200, Conan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insisted:
> > i've just installed Linux Mandrake 8, and set up LILO during install, but
> > on the reboot LILO doesn't load giving me the option of decing which OS to
> > load, Windows or Linux, i have to use a boot disk. how can i get it to
> > load up when i turn the computer on?
> Well -- if you would describe your problem in more detail perhaps someone
> would even be able to help you. But the message "OUH MY LILO DOES NOT BOOT"
> does not tell very much about what might have caused your problem.
>
> What Do you see on you screen ??
> an "L" or even "LI" or even worse \nothing\ ???
>
> maybe you should try to press <TAB> after the boot sequence of your box ;-)
If you can boot in, you need to reconfigure lilo. Edit
/etc/lilo.conf, then run "lilo"
There's oodles of lilo dox out there, some on your computer. Make
sure you know what it's going to do before you reboot. As in, read
the dox.
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