Linux-Setup Digest #333, Volume #21              Wed, 30 May 01 09:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Red Hat 7.1 MultiBoot Problem ("Milan Pavlovic")
  Re: Kernel hda: DMA timeout on installing RadHat 7.1 (Dave Uhring)
  Re: sound mystery (Dave Uhring)
  Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!! (M. Buchenrieder)
  Dual Boot Win2K and Linux (Irving Ian Liaw)
  Re: q: linux software rewiew website? (Sulaiman AlHasawi)
  Re: FTP question on RH 7.1 ("Support")
  Re: Sony Vaio 505 + Mandrake 8 ??? (John McCabe)
  Re: Kernel hda: DMA timeout on installing RadHat 7.1 (datasim_sgr)
  HELP : syslog problem (joyeux666)
  Re: problems with alsa ("Greg Berchin")

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From: "Milan Pavlovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Red Hat 7.1 MultiBoot Problem
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:39:20 +0200

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      NTFS                |
|     |                || linux  |linux|        NTFS         ||          =
                          |=20
| 1G  |       4G       || native | swap|         4G          ||          =
                          |=20
|win98| win 2k system  ||   2G   | 0.5G| win 2k programs     ||          =
      DATA                |
| DOS |                |+--------+-----+---------------------+|          =
                          |=20
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        6

I have disk structure as shown above (expand the message and turn off =
wordwrap to see the image correctly).

PQ Boot Magic is master Boot Loader, and from it I can boot into Win =
98/DOS or Windows 2k with no problem. But I can't boot into Linux (even =
though I have installed it correctly, placing LILO on the begining of =
Linux logical partition, which is between, 650 and 860 cylinder, so it =
is under 1023 boundary). I can boot into Red Hat 7.1 linux from the boot =
diskette I made during installation process, but when I add Linux =
partition in Boot Magic configuration (using BMCFG on FAT partition, =
where Boot Magic is Installed), afterI choose Linux in Boot Magic menu =
(during boot process), I receive, on a new, blank text mode screen, =
"Preparing to load Red Hat Linux 7.1...." and nothing else. Screen =
freezes, and only restart helps.

I'm using Boot Magic since it should be the easiest way to boot into =
different operating systems even after changin partitions positions and =
sizes (which I do, using partition MAgic from time to time).

I was using bootsect.lnx file and NT loader before, but it all fails =
when I change position of Linux partition.

What am I doing wrong???

greetings
Milan

P.S. Configuration

1 FAT partition (PRIMARY) with Win 98/DOS and Boot Magic 1Gb
2 NTFS Win 2k system (PRIMARY) with Win 2k 4Gb
EXTENDED partition contains
    3 Linux native (Logical) with Red HAt 7.1 installed and LILO on it =
2Gb
    4 Linux swap (Logical) 500Mb
    5 NTFS (Logical) with program files for Win 2k 4Gb
6 NTFS partition (Primary) with data files (rest of the HDD space)

I'm running PIII 500MHz on GigaByte GA-686BXC M/B

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I have disk structure as shown=20
above&nbsp;(expand the message and turn off&nbsp;wordwrap to see the =
image=20
correctly).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>PQ Boot Magic is master Boot =
Loader, and=20
from it I can boot into Win 98/DOS or Windows 2k with no problem. But I =
can't=20
boot into Linux (even though I have installed it correctly, placing LILO =
on the=20
begining of Linux logical partition, which is between, 650 and 860 =
cylinder, so=20
it is under 1023 boundary). I can boot into Red Hat 7.1 linux from the =
boot=20
diskette I made during installation process, but when I add Linux =
partition in=20
Boot Magic configuration (using BMCFG on FAT partition, where Boot Magic =
is=20
Installed), afterI choose Linux in Boot Magic menu (during boot =
process), I=20
receive, on a new, blank text mode screen, "Preparing to load Red Hat =
Linux=20
7.1...." and nothing else. Screen freezes, and only restart =
helps.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I'm using Boot Magic since it =
should be the=20
easiest way to boot into different operating systems even after changin=20
partitions positions and sizes (which I do, using partition MAgic from =
time to=20
time).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I was using bootsect.lnx file =
and NT loader=20
before, but it all fails when&nbsp;I change position of Linux=20
partition.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>What am I doing =
wrong???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>greetings</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Milan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>P.S. Configuration</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>1 FAT partition (PRIMARY) with =
Win 98/DOS=20
and Boot Magic 1Gb</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>2 NTFS Win 2k system (PRIMARY) =
with Win 2k=20
4Gb</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>EXTENDED partition =
contains</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 Linux =
native (Logical)=20
with Red HAt 7.1 installed and LILO on it 2Gb</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4 Linux swap =
(Logical)=20
500Mb</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 NTFS =
(Logical) with=20
program files for Win 2k 4Gb</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>6 NTFS partition (Primary) with =
data files=20
(rest of the HDD space)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I'm running PIII 500MHz&nbsp;on =
GigaByte=20
GA-686BXC M/B</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel hda: DMA timeout on installing RadHat 7.1
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 05:09:59 -0500

datasim_sgr wrote:

> Has anyone had problems with installation procedure like this:
> hda: DMA timeuot
> Recognition of hda: device is ok (hda: ...IBM...), but procedure hangs
> on communicating with HD.
> 
> ???
> Please help me, we have to install Oracle 8.
> 
> Edmund
> 

Without specifying exactly what motherboard you are using and what 
distribution of Linux you are attempting to install you are not going to 
get a sane answer.

FYI, however, the best distro to install if you are going to install Oracle 
8 is RedHat-6.2.  You cannot install Oracle with RedHat-7 or 7.1 or any 
other distro which uses glibc-2.2.X.  The compatibility feature of RH-7.1 
will allow you to run Oracle after install, but the actual install will 
crash.


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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sound mystery
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 05:10:46 -0500

Darren wrote:

> OS Mandrake 7.2 identifies my sound card OK but I don't get sound. I go
> through the configuration set-up and it says it is playing a sample Midi
> file then asks "Do you hear anything?" I click no and it closes the
> configuration tool. Is it just me or is that an absolutely useless
> configuration tool if you can not actually do anything?
> Please help.
> 
> 
> 

Did you invoke a mixer and turn the volume up?


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!!
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 06:02:22 GMT

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"Somphong K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>During this Memorial weekend, I installed Redhat 7.1 (Kernel 2.4.2-2)
>on my PC at home. Win98 is on IDE drive/A and Rh7.1 completely on IDE
>drive/B. I did not realize at the time that part of linux, such as /boot
>partition, had to be on drive/A to use LILO.

It doesn't necessarily have to be that way, it's just the default.

>During graphic installation,I was prompted where to put LILO i.e. in MBR
>or linux drive's boot partition. Unfortunately I decided to avoid fooling
>with MBR and opted for the later.

... which subsequently overwrote your boot sector.

[...]

>I hoped to restore MBR by executing 'fdisk /MBR' under MSDOS but I was
>surprised to learn that all my Windows rescue and MSDOS diskettes failed
>to even boot. PC tried to boot from the floppies but hang after reading/
>loading a few blocks.

[...]

Most likely your partition table is corrupted; it's easy to hose up
a Win* system that way, as the bootloader and all the relevant Win* tools
(like fdisk.exe) are very limited in its capabilities. I'd suspect
that probably your Win* partition has been assigned a different 
partition id, this rendering Win* unbootable. Another possible reason
would be a changed partition layout. If you did, however, have some
sort of diskmanager software installed, then you're on your own.
EZ-Disk and similar tools change the partition table layout in a 
way that makes restoring it close to impossible. Just try to remove
EZ-Disk from a disk once you don't need it anymore; it's hopeless
without manually overwriting the relevant sectors.

Please show us your partition table as reported by Linux' fdisk.

Michael
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          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Irving Ian Liaw)
Subject: Dual Boot Win2K and Linux
Date: 30 May 2001 03:32:35 -0700

Hi,

I would like to install Win2K in place of my present Win98SE.
Presently have Win98SE dual booting with my Mandrake 7.2 using Grub.
I'd like 3 questions answered before I do this :

1) Is it true that Linux will not mount NTFS 5.0 partitions?
   Thus effectively only allowing me to install my Win2K on FAT32?

2) Is there any chance I can retain my present GRUB bootloader and not
have to change to the Win2K one?

3) In relation to the previous question, What kind of complications
will arise as a result of Win2K being installed 2nd?
   Usually I know Windows has to be the first installed OS then
afterwards running FIPS and Partition Magic, we then put in Linux.
  
Yes, my windows "C:" is the first partition (PRI)on the HDD.
Followed by a Linux /boot partition and the rest all sit in
extended... .

Thanks,
irVIng

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From: Sulaiman AlHasawi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: q: linux software rewiew website?
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:59:49 +0000

Farrell Farahbod wrote:

> does anyone know of where a good linux software review web site. can
> anyone reccomend one. i know of linuxapps.com but they dont do reviews-i
> think.
>
> thanx,
>
> farrell




      freshmeat.net



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From: "Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: FTP question on RH 7.1
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 21:15:17 +1000

Find a program on your 7.1 box called FTPD Editor - which is the easiest way
to configure your requirements.

Regards

David
"Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just got FTP working and had a few more questions.
>
> 1.  Now that I can FTP into my server I can see the following folders:
> (bin, etc, lib, and pub).  Am I supposed to be able to see inside all
> four folders?  I placed some text files into the pub folder just for
> testing and I can see them just fine.  While I CAN'T see anything in the
>
> bin and etc folders I CAN see some files in the lib folder.  Is that
> okay?
>
> 2.  How do I allow myself to be able to write to a folder?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> Lamar
>



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From: John McCabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sony Vaio 505 + Mandrake 8 ???
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:26:09 +0100

I found a solution...

enter the following when booting the install disk

all ide2=0x180,0x386

This works, I'd previously used linux ide2=0x180,0x386

Can someone tell me what the 'all' actually is?
/John

John McCabe wrote:

> Sony Vaio 505 + Mandrake 8
> Has anybody managed to get this installed? Its falling over for me when
> the setup starts to probe the pcmcia on the vaio...
>
> Please help,
> /John
>
> ps. I've currently got Redhat7.1 installed, it had no problems at all.


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From: datasim_sgr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel hda: DMA timeout on installing RadHat 7.1
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:16:56 +0200

> FYI, however, the best distro to install if you are going to install Oracle
> 8 is RedHat-6.2.  You cannot install Oracle with RedHat-7 or 7.1 or any
> other distro which uses glibc-2.2.X.  The compatibility feature of RH-7.1
> will allow you to run Oracle after install, but the actual install will
> crash.

Thanks. Problem solved. I'll tell my chief, so we will save much effort
and time!
I think I'll install 7.1 next time !!!
If I manage, I will send technical data requested (my PC is
unreacheable, now), as I'm interested in solving this problem.

Bye

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From: joyeux666 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP : syslog problem
Date: 30 May 2001 12:38:48 GMT

Hello, I'm french.
at present i make my work placement in D'arva, I have a problem with syslog 
under Linux. 
Indeed, I would like to get back the logs of a switch in a file which I have to 
create in /Var/log/switch.log
In the syslog program, I added -r to the daemon syslogd to allow the reception 
of the distant network. I modified the syslog.conf file in etc/syslog.conf by 
adding it the line 
IPadress.*      /Var/log/switch.log 
I have already to try 
@hostname.*     /Var/log/switch.log 
by adding IPadress hostname in the file hosts

( I restart the daemon has every time) but I get back nothing in my switch.log 
file ................

If somebody has a solution for my pb..........
Thank you in advance

I m ' apaologize for my bad English
@+
joyeux666 

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From: "Greg Berchin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems with alsa
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 07:56:43 -0500


"Dave Uhring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> As far as building alsa-drivers using the RedHat kernel is concerned,
> forget about it.  The kernel has been modified so much that the drivers
> will not build.
>
> Download the 2.4.4 kernel (not 2.4.5), build and install it.  Configure
> /etc/lilo.conf, /sbin/lilo and reboot.  Now build the alsa-drivers and you
> will succeed.
>

Can you be more specific?  My RedHat distribution comes with 2.4.2-2 kernel.
What's different about this kernel versus anyone else's 2.4.2-2 kernel?

At the moment I have no way to verify your statement, because the directory
problems that I described in my earlier message prevent the alsa-drivers
from even compiling (can't find the ".h" files).

GB



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