Linux-Setup Digest #383, Volume #21               Wed, 6 Jun 01 09:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
  Re: Problem with Mouse Detection on Red Hat Linux 7.1 (Joal Heagney)
  adjusting Corel Linux display settings (Ed McCorduck)
  Re: linux box cannot be seen in networkneighbourhood of win2000. ("Glitch")
  Pb Mylex DAC960P ("Tom")
  Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!! (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: linux box cannot be seen in networkneighbourhood of win2000. (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: Newbie with a question (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before ("David Anderson")
  Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before ("David Anderson")
  Permission  access to cdrom problem ("James M K")
  Re: Dumb question! How to install Rpms without rpm? (ada2)
  problems with x ("noMoreheroes")
  Re: Permission  access to cdrom problem ("Troy Kucks")
  Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before ("Eric")
  usb hotplug problem (julien)
  Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before ("David Anderson")
  Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before ("Eric")
  which damon read hardisk in 5 second period? ("xhc")
  Re: not able to start lilo after reinstalling windows (David Douthitt)
  Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before ("David Anderson")
  toshiba satellite pro 4600 install from cd (Dan Kimberg)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:39:23 GMT

"David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>My problem is with lilo: After installing it with the lilo.conf file
>following, upon reboot the machine has a most bizarre attitude. If I wait
>the 15 seconds I have set for timeout for linux to boot, it boots fine and
>dandy. But if I dare type 'linux' myself or so much as press enter to speed
>things up, the kernel crashes out after detecting the scsi drives:

What happens if you set timeout to 30 seconds, and press a key after
15 seconds?
-- 
Svend Olaf

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From: Joal Heagney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with Mouse Detection on Red Hat Linux 7.1
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:07:34 +1000

J Hayward wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Did you try updating to the lastest available versions of mouseconfig and
> Xconfigurator? There were problems with the initial 7.1 release of these
> packages. Also you might try disabling gpm:

Is this because of a buggy Xconfigurator/mouseconfig that happened to be
on that release, or is there a need to update these packages to deal
with 2.4 kernels. You see, I got the same difficulty building a kernel
from source on my Mandrake 7.2 system. And yep, tried killing gpm, no
change to the situation.

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From: Ed McCorduck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: adjusting Corel Linux display settings
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:30:08 -0000

I'm trying to adjust the display settings on the installation of Corel 
Linux OS (Desktop Version 1.2, Kernel Version 2.2.16) on my Dell Inspiron 
7500 with an ATI Rage Mobility M/M/1/P video card (I've got Corel Linux on 
a DOS/Windows partition on this computer). After starting Corel Linux 
logging in as root, I go to Control Center > Settings > Desktop > Display 
Settings and then choose the new setting I want under Screen Resolution, 
and then I hit the Test Settings button, click on the Accept button on the 
screen that appears, and then I'm taken back to the Display Settings tab 
window. Whether I click on the Apply or OK buttons, I get the window "Test 
Settings--Save your work in any open applications, log out, and press Ctl-
Alt-Backspace to restart the X server." I hit OK, close the Control Center 
window and logout. I see the "This Corel Linux session is prepared for 
Logout" screen, and I hit Ctl-Alt Backspace. I get the Login screen, but 
the whole screen is the same resolution as before I when I tried to change 
it. Even if I hit "O.K." after "This Corel Linux session is prepared for 
Logout," I'm taken back to the login screen at old resolution. 
Hitting "Ctl-Alt Backspace" at this point also does nothing but give me 
the login screen, at the old resolution.

Any help with enabling me to adjust my display resolution would be greatly 
appreciated. Thanks in advance. 

www.McCorduck.ws

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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux box cannot be seen in networkneighbourhood of win2000.
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 19:03:20 -0400
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Liverpool_fc"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> thank you.
> 
> all the pc's and server are in the same subnet. 192.168.27.1 -
> 192.168.27.100
> there are no wins, dhcp or dns servers.
> 
> simple lan with one rh6.2 box, 5 win98/95 boxes and one win2000
> workstation. only the win2000 cannot see the rh6.2 server in network
> neighbourhood.
> 

does the win2k box have Service pack 1 installed on it?   I think I read
on another group that SP1 messes things up with communication with Linux
computers.

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From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pb Mylex DAC960P
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:39:03 +0200
Reply-To: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I ve got problems wih he installation of the RedHat 7.0 on a IBM Server 704
with a Raid controller Mylex DAC960P. The installation abort when it doesn't
find the disk. If someone can help me !!! Thanks a lot



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!!
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:22:34 GMT

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[Please add your comments below the cited text. Thanks.]


"Somphong K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>When I mentioned I could not boot from Wind98 recover diskette,
>I meant the PC read the floppy for a few seconds, then turn to
>read the C drive (/dev/hda) over and over. 

Invalid partition table and/or invalid master boot record.

[...]

>Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3736 cylinders
>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

>   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
>/dev/hda1   *         1      2040  16386268+   b  Win95 FAT32

[...]

That should be ID 0C, AFAIK. You might want to give it a try.
In case that doesn't cure it:

The only way out is to overwrite the bootsector of /dev/hda
by using

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1

and recreating both the partition table with the values as shown
above, and a proper master boot record (e.g., by using fdisk.exe
with the /mbr option).

WARNING: This will delete the partition table.

If you want to be on the safe side, take out that HD from the system
prior to the aforementioned actions, add it to a working machine
as secondary HD, then backup your
data (the drive should be accessible as long as there is a valid
partition table on it). 

Michael
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: linux box cannot be seen in networkneighbourhood of win2000.
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:58:17 GMT

"Liverpool_fc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>thank you.

>all the pc's and server are in the same subnet.
>192.168.27.1 - 192.168.27.100
>there are no wins, dhcp or dns servers.

>simple lan with one rh6.2 box, 5 win98/95 boxes and one win2000 workstation.
>only the win2000 cannot see the rh6.2 server in network neighbourhood.

[...]

Assuming you can send a ping from the win2k machine to the Linux
box, you'll need to update your Samba installation, as the win2k systems
need a newer samba package.

Michael

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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie with a question
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 20:24:51 +1000



Joal Heagney wrote:

>  "Well that's all on the
> windows partition, the install won't touch that." *pause, then the sound
> of someone screaming*
>
> Joal Heagney/AncientHart

"Been there, done it, love it!"

Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.



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From: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:21:55 +0200
Reply-To: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> What happens if you set timeout to 30 seconds, and press a key after
> 15 seconds?

Not a bad idea, but unfortunately the system crashes whatever timeout I set
it to. I tried 5 seconds, 15, 30, 60, pressing enter at different intervals,
but the problem remains...

--
David Anderson



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From: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:24:25 +0200
Reply-To: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Okay. The "something like that" is no good.
> Show the *exact* error message please.
> 00:80 is not sda. 08:00 is though. What did it say?

Yes, quite right, I was in a hurry when I worte the first message. Here is
the exact error message: after detecting the 3 HDDs on the scsi controller:

VFS: Cannot open root device 00:80
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:80

> There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with this lilo.conf.
> But anyway, you got as far as booting the kernel, so LILO no
> longer is involved. I fail to see who pressing enter can have
> the effect you describe, unless the enter is somehow taken as an argument
> to the kernel. Did you edit this lilo.conf from windows? Are there
> any control characters in it? Use eg. vi and make a new lilo.conf.
> Make sure no control characters are in

I gave it a look, but I edited it using the ascii text editor from midnight
commander, and it's clean.

--
David Anderson



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From: "James M K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Permission  access to cdrom problem
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:36:42 -0700

I created CDROM on KDE in Mandrake 7.2 but permission is denied.
It is OK with a floppy but cdrom/ directory is locked. I do not have a
permision to a CDROM.
I login as root when I start my system.
I did try to remove device on KDE and create again but no change.
When I go to shell it looks like that:

[root@localhost /mnt]# ls -l

drwxrwxrwx  1 root   root                      0 Jun    6 05:03      cdrom/
drxr-xr-x       2 root   root                7168  Dec  31 1969     floppy/



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From: ada2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dumb question! How to install Rpms without rpm?
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:35:43 +0800

Peter T. Breuer wrote:

> ada2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I accidentaly deleted my rpm program.  Now, I can not install it back 
>> because it is packed as rpm.  Is there some other way to install 
>> rpm-4.0-XXX.rpm? or is there exist a rpm-4.0.xxx.src.tgz that I can install 
>> with  ./configure, make , make install?
> 
> 
> You need rpm for that :-).
> 
> You can use rpm2cpio to unpack the binary rpm, and then cpio to
> install the parts. Then you can reinstall rpm using rpm.
> 
> I.e. you need a working copy of rpm first. You either compile it,
> borrow it, or steal it ... it's called "bootstrapping". I'd just
> copy rpm from somewhere else if all you did was remove the executable.
> If you rpm -e'ed it, then I'd borrow a rpm2cpio and put it back, then
> reinstall it. If you can't get hold of an rpm2cpio, tehn I'd compile
> the whole thing.
> 
> Peter

Thank you for all your help.  What I did was I tried to upgrade to newer 
version, so I rpm -e'ed the old one. Then, I found out it was so dumb.

Anyway, with you help, I was able to download rpm-4.0.2.i386.tar.gz and 
unpacked it.  It came with rpm2cpio, so I have solved the problem. 
Thanks again.



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From: "noMoreheroes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: problems with x
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:10:51 +0100

the error says

ioctl 0x7667  failed invalid arguement

x connection to :0.0 broken

what is this in simple english - where do i find whats causing this and how
do find the correct info to replace it with?




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From: "Troy Kucks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Permission  access to cdrom problem
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:54:27 +1000

I have had this problem in both Mandrake 7.2 and 8.0

basically the only way that i have found around it is to do a chmod -755 on
mount and umount

that generally fixes the problem

:))

Hope that works for u

Cheers

Troy




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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:57:44 +0200

> > Okay. The "something like that" is no good.
> > Show the *exact* error message please.
> > 00:80 is not sda. 08:00 is though. What did it say?
>
> Yes, quite right, I was in a hurry when I worte the first message. Here is
> the exact error message: after detecting the 3 HDDs on the scsi
controller:
>
> VFS: Cannot open root device 00:80
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:80

Have you tried to boot with the option:

"linux root=0x801"

at the lilo prompt
(check the syntax, but I think this is correct)

> > There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with this lilo.conf.
> > But anyway, you got as far as booting the kernel, so LILO no
> > longer is involved. I fail to see who pressing enter can have
> > the effect you describe, unless the enter is somehow taken as an
argument
> > to the kernel. Did you edit this lilo.conf from windows? Are there
> > any control characters in it? Use eg. vi and make a new lilo.conf.
> > Make sure no control characters are in
>
> I gave it a look, but I edited it using the ascii text editor from
midnight
> commander, and it's clean.

please check this anyway

Eric



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From: julien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: usb hotplug problem
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:08:40 +0200

Hi,

I have a 2.4.5 kernel with usb support compiled as module and a debian sid. 
I have got a HP Deskjet 840C USB printer and an Archos jukebox (USB mass 
storage). Everything works fine when I insert the modules with modeprobe 
(printer dor the HP and usb-storage for the jukebox).
I installed hotplug. It recongnizes neither my printer nor my jukebox. The 
error messages are :
usb.c : USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x3f0/0x604) is not claimed by any active 
driver. (this is the printer)
and 
usb.c : USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x5ab/0x31) is not claimed by any active 
driver. (this is the jukebox)

But for the jukebox (I didn't find any information for the printer), I have 
this in $MODULE_DIR/modules.usbmap :
usb-storage          0x000f      0x05ab   0x0031    0x0100       0x0110     
  0x00         0x00            0x00            0x00            0x00         
      0x00               0x00000000

It should be reconcnized ! I don't understand.... And for the printer, I'd 
like to make my own entry in usb.handmap for example but I don't know how 
to do.

If someone could help me ...

thanx !
Julien

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From: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:16:16 +0200
Reply-To: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Have you tried to boot with the option:
>
> "linux root=0x801"
>
> at the lilo prompt
> (check the syntax, but I think this is correct)

I gave it a try, but no... The same error occurs, but this time on 00:00
(??).

> > I gave it a look, but I edited it using the ascii text editor from
> midnight
> > commander, and it's clean.
>
> please check this anyway

I checked it, and it's clean. Pure ascii.

--
David Anderson



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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:24:36 +0200

> > Have you tried to boot with the option:
> >
> > "linux root=0x801"
> >
> > at the lilo prompt
> > (check the syntax, but I think this is correct)
>
> I gave it a try, but no... The same error occurs, but this time on 00:00
> (??).

and changing the rootfs with rdev in the kernel?

(I have no clue why you have this problem, I'm just
suggesting ways around it now)

Eric



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From: "xhc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: which damon read hardisk in 5 second period?
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:31:51 +0800

There is a damon in my Red Hat 6.2 read the hard disk per 5 second period. I
forgot what I did before, but I want to know which damon is doing this job.
Any comment on this!



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From: David Douthitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: not able to start lilo after reinstalling windows
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:27:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

gopirg wrote:

> i had to format my windows and had to reinstall it .with reinstalling gone
> is my LILO which is in MBR now with out my boot floppy(linux) i am not able
> to enter linux

Isn't Windows wonderful?

> i want to write lilo into mbr how will i do it and i don,t
> have RH 6.2 which i my version of linux

Get GNU GRUB and create a floppy disk to boot with.  Boot with it,
then use GRUB to boot.  You'll need to know which drive to boot (the
partition and drive containing /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.XXX) and you'll need
to know which file to boot.  Assuming Linux calls your boot partition
/dev/hda3, and this partition is mounted at /boot , and the file is
vmlinuz-2.2.15 , you'd do something like this at grub's command prompt
(press 'c' at the boot menu):

root(hd0,2)
kernel vmlinuz-2.2.15 ...any_kernel_parms...
boot

...after this, you should be booting into Linux.  If you want to stick
with LILO, do:

lilo -v

...as root.  However, grub is much nicer and seems to have fewer
problems in booting.  I would encourage you to switch; I recently was
able to solve some sticky problems with LILO (with regards to an IDE
device interfering with booting of a SCSI drive) by switching to GRUB.

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From: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weird lilo problem, never seen before
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:38:27 +0200
Reply-To: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> and changing the rootfs with rdev in the kernel?

Nope, still not :-)

> (I have no clue why you have this problem, I'm just
> suggesting ways around it now)

Thanks for trying to help me out!

And if the worst comes to the worst, I'll just have to make do with this bug
and set the timeout to a lower value to be able to multiboot (I need to be
able to boot to a Compaq utilities partition and the floppy). It's just a
bit silly that if I ever have a problem i'll have to boot from a floppy...

Maybe if I try upgrading lilo and the kernel? lilo is ver 21 (found 21.5)
and I'll have a go at upgrading to kernel 2.2.19 ...

Thanks again
--
David Anderson
"It is human to make mistakes. To really foul things up requires a computer"
:-)



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From: Dan Kimberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: toshiba satellite pro 4600 install from cd
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:39:59 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've been trying to install recent versions of Mandrake and RedHat on
this laptop (a brand new Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600 with the latest
firmware, v2.40), but I haven't been able to find an installation CD the
machine likes.  When I try to boot from any of the installation CDs, I
get the dreaded "Media Test Failure: Check Cable" message.  These same
CDs boot fine on many other machines (mostly Dell desktop boxes), and I
can read them if I boot into windows, so I don't suspect the CDs.  And
this machine seems happy booting from other CDs (the recovery CDs that
came with it anyway), so I know the machine is trying to do its part.  I
suspect I could just use the boot floppy image and proceed that way, or
maybe do a net install.  But this is going to come up again, so it would
be good to know if there's a fix, or if others have had the same
problem.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks,

dan

ps   i haven't tried tech support, i assume i'd spend an hour or two on
hold and then they would tell me they don't support linux.  but if i get
desperate enough i'll try and post the results.

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