Linux-Setup Digest #427, Volume #21 Tue, 12 Jun 01 21:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: HOWTO - PPP Chapter 17 (bill davidsen)
Re: New kernel hangs at "Creating /var/log/boot.msg" (Craig Kelley)
Re: Hard Drive Re-partitioning (John Thompson)
Re: Lilo-only bootdisk creation (Kenny McCormack)
Installation of RH 6.1 with Win98 over FAT32 (LBA) problem ... Help!!! ("Kanchan
Sardana")
Re: Hard Drive Re-partitioning ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Lilo-only bootdisk creation ("Peter T. Breuer")
Weird startup interface in Redhat linux 7.1 ("Qisheng Pan")
Re: SCSI Challenge (ridz)
Reiserfs problems?I can't mount .. (VP)
Re: Now I've Lost My Network Card! (was: re: Sound Module Problems) (Rand Simberg)
RedHat 7.1 on 16MB of RAM ("Curious George")
Re: Hard Drive Re-partitioning (Steve Martin)
Why is my sound card locking up my machine? (Rand Simberg)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: HOWTO - PPP Chapter 17
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:10:02 +0000 (UTC)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Included in part:
|
| *****
| Fire up you communications software, (such as minicom), dial into the
| PPP server and log in as normal. If you need to issue a command to start
| up PPP on the server, do so. You will now see the garbage you saw
| before.
| *****
|
| This is where I get hung. I enter the login name and password at the
| prompt, then my ISP starts sending the PAP info, right? So just exactly
| how does one in a terminal window initiate the PAP response? If I run
| pppd from another session, it just echoes jibberish to the screen, which
| apparently is not seen in the minicom session. I don't see a way in
| minicom to execute anything other than a shell script, which pppd is
| not. How do I get through this spot in the HOWTO?
Unless you have an unusual case and really need to login manually, I
strongly suggest that you just use the built-in login stuff in pppd and
let it transition from chat to ppp modes. Oh, and then you can use
demand mode and have it dial when you use the net, without manual
intervention. many people find that convenient.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
You have moved your mouse. Before this change can take effect you must
reboot your system. Press ENTER now to reboot your system, or any other
key to repartition your hard disk and reinstall Windows.
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: New kernel hangs at "Creating /var/log/boot.msg"
Date: 12 Jun 2001 16:19:34 -0600
"Rod Brick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Rod Brick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > I've just recompiled a 2.4 kernel. It hangs during startup at "Creating
> > > /var/log/boot.msg"
> > >
> > > I have no idea where the culprit lies here. Something missing in my
> config?
> > > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Can it not mount the volume that /var/log is on? That is often a
> > 'doh' situation that may or may not pertain to your problem.
>
> Currently, everything is mounted on the same partition. When I boot a
> default kernel (SuSE), all is fine. It's this new kernel that's giving me
> trouble.
Yes, but check that you have the filesystem that / is compiled into
your new kernel (ext2?); that the drivers needed to access / are
compiled into the kernel (scsi? ata?).
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Hard Drive Re-partitioning
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:27:09 -0500
Steve Martin wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.misc Skylar Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I just got a new SCSI hard drive, and am having some trouble repartitioning it.
>I would
> >
> > Well, fix your scsi setup then! Something as basic as that not working
> > indicates that your scsi system is fouled.
> I hate like the dickens to agree with the good Dr. Breuer, but
> I have to say that it sounds like maybe a hardware problem.
> Double-check the termination of the SCSI chain, especially
> make sure there is only one termination on the drive end
> (if there's only one drive, make sure it's terminated; if
> more than one, make sure that only the last drive on the
> end of the cable is terminated).
Thanks for responding. The drive itself is a 9G Seagate in an
external enclosure attached to an Adaptec 2490 HBA. It is the
only external device; internally, there are two 2G Seagate
drives, an Exabyte tape drive and a 40x HP CDROM drive. All the
devices are ercognized by the HBA when the system boots and all
have unique SCSI ID's assigned. All the internal devices work
fine; only the external drive is giving us problems. Both ends
of the SCSI chain are terminated.
> Let me ask the Stupid Question. You did include support for
> your particular SCSI adapter in your kernel, right?
Yes.
> Can you elaborate on "Parition Magic crashes"? Does it just
> dump core ungracefully, or does it give any error messages
> when it departs? For that matter, if you can lay your hands on
> a DOS / Win9x boot disk, can you partition the disk with
> that? Although not ideal for Linux use, this at least will
> give some indication whether the hardware is indeed crappy.
> Some more verbose error messages might help diagnosis.
We have attempted to partition the unit using Partition Magic
v6.0, which fails with a write error writing the partition table
or simply hangs without completing. OS/2 fdisk will partition
the drive without complaint, but upon reboot the partitions are
no longer found. Linux fdisk, cfdisk and sfdisk all appear to
write the partition table, but when examined later no partitions
are found.
> And, as Dr. Breuer said, what does /var/log/dmesg show?
> This would be an indication whether the drive is found at
> boot time by the kernel and what geometry the kernel thinks
> the drive has.
The linux kernel identifies the device as "SCSI device sdc
17755614 512-byte hdwr sectors (9091MB)" but the next line reads
"sdc: unknown partition table"
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: Re: Lilo-only bootdisk creation
Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:34:34 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, npostr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to make a new bootdisk for my Linux system (Debian 2.2r2). For the
>moment, I want the system booting from bootdisk only, as I want to leave my
>DOS/Windows bootup untouched for the other users of the computer.
>Is it possible to make a bootable disk which will simply load Lilo and get
>it to boot Linux off my Linux partition? I looked at the howto on making
>bootdisks and rootdisks, but they involved putting a complete compressed Linux
>system on the disk.
>From what I can see, having a compressed Linux system on the bootdisk means
>slow bootup and it doesn't achieve anything, since I'm using the linux system
>on the hard drive. Can anyone help?
>-Christine.
You can do this - or at least you could, in the olden days. Nobody seems to
talk about it anymore, and it could well be the case that it doesn't work
anymore.
But in the olden days, we used to do:
1) cp /path/to/your/kernel /dev/fd0
2) rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda1
(where, of course, the /dev/hda1 is whatever partition you want to boot from)
Now, you have a bootable floppy - that will boot very quickly.
You may have to play with the rdev command - it has been a while since I've
done this and the documentation (man page) on it is rather opaque.
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From: "Kanchan Sardana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Installation of RH 6.1 with Win98 over FAT32 (LBA) problem ... Help!!!
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:06:35 GMT
Hi,
I have a compaq machine with 30GB HDD, on this HDD there is one partition of
27 GB on which win98 with FAT32 (LBA) is installed and Rest is not
allocated, when i try to install RH6.1 and try to do partition with Disk
druid /Fdisk , when i going to create a linux Native Partition and i have
assign it to first 16MB and then 2.5GB in both the cases it give me same
error and the error is "Boot partition is too big" and coz of this i am not
able to install linux. what do i have to do to install the linux on my
machine.
when i see the config of HDD, the empty partition is in the end of 30GB. Is
this that RH 6.1 is not able to access the parition coz it is at the end???
can anybuddy help me out??
thanks
Girish
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Hard Drive Re-partitioning
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:16:35 +0200
In comp.os.linux.misc John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Martin wrote:
>
>> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> >
>> > In comp.os.linux.misc Skylar Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > I just got a new SCSI hard drive, and am having some trouble repartitioning it.
>I would
>> >
>> > Well, fix your scsi setup then! Something as basic as that not working
>> > indicates that your scsi system is fouled.
>> I hate like the dickens to agree with the good Dr. Breuer, but
>> I have to say that it sounds like maybe a hardware problem.
>> Double-check the termination of the SCSI chain, especially
>> make sure there is only one termination on the drive end
>> (if there's only one drive, make sure it's terminated; if
>> more than one, make sure that only the last drive on the
>> end of the cable is terminated).
> Thanks for responding. The drive itself is a 9G Seagate in an
> external enclosure attached to an Adaptec 2490 HBA. It is the
> only external device; internally, there are two 2G Seagate
> drives, an Exabyte tape drive and a 40x HP CDROM drive. All the
> devices are ercognized by the HBA when the system boots and all
> have unique SCSI ID's assigned. All the internal devices work
> fine; only the external drive is giving us problems. Both ends
> of the SCSI chain are terminated.
And what is the termination status of the controller? Are all devices
scsi wide, or are some narrow? I imagine that the tape and cdrom
are narrow and the disks are wide. That means that the tape and cdrom
must be on the end of the scsi buss, and the termination for the upper
channel must be before these two and after the disks, whilst the
termination for the lower channel must be after the tape and cdrom.
If the external device is wide, then the controller must be open
(not terminated). If the external disk is narrow, then the controller
must be terminated on the upper channel and open on the lower.
And what is the total length of the bus? As far as I recall it has to
be something like 1m, max.
>> Can you elaborate on "Parition Magic crashes"? Does it just
>> dump core ungracefully, or does it give any error messages
>> when it departs? For that matter, if you can lay your hands on
>> a DOS / Win9x boot disk, can you partition the disk with
>> that? Although not ideal for Linux use, this at least will
>> give some indication whether the hardware is indeed crappy.
>> Some more verbose error messages might help diagnosis.
> We have attempted to partition the unit using Partition Magic
> v6.0, which fails with a write error writing the partition table
> or simply hangs without completing. OS/2 fdisk will partition
> the drive without complaint, but upon reboot the partitions are
> no longer found. Linux fdisk, cfdisk and sfdisk all appear to
> write the partition table, but when examined later no partitions
> are found.
Your writes or reads are not reaching the disk, or it is simply not
formatted or not working.
>
>> And, as Dr. Breuer said, what does /var/log/dmesg show?
>> This would be an indication whether the drive is found at
>> boot time by the kernel and what geometry the kernel thinks
>> the drive has.
> The linux kernel identifies the device as "SCSI device sdc
> 17755614 512-byte hdwr sectors (9091MB)" but the next line reads
> "sdc: unknown partition table"
(that's not very interesrting)
But what error messages if any are recorded while reading and writing?
What happens if you place the device on the internal bus?
Sounds like bad cable or bad connector or bad disk.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo-only bootdisk creation
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:24:57 +0200
Kenny McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, npostr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I want to make a new bootdisk for my Linux system (Debian 2.2r2). For the
>>moment, I want the system booting from bootdisk only, as I want to leave my
>>DOS/Windows bootup untouched for the other users of the computer.
>>Is it possible to make a bootable disk which will simply load Lilo and get
>>it to boot Linux off my Linux partition? I looked at the howto on making
Sure, yes. Just point the lilo.conf at the _disk_ root file system.
The kernel image must still be on the diskette though ... I think ..
it's maybe possible that you could boot a kernel on the disk. Try it!
Peter
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From: "Qisheng Pan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat
Subject: Weird startup interface in Redhat linux 7.1
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:46:26 -0700
When the linux boots up, I can see the GHOME/KTE interface, but everything
is weird: tip does not show up, I cannot see the text inside the graphic
interface. However, after logout and relogin, everything is OK. Anyone know
the problem?
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From: ridz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI Challenge
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:32:37 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ridz wrote:
> Try putting "0x340,11,1,1" on the first line. The "1,1" represents
> parity and re-connection. Hope this will help.
> --------------
> Regards,
> Ridzwan Abdullah
> **** Remove '-no-spam-' from e-mail address before replying ****
>
>
Ooops - I just noticed that I accidently missed a parameter. The
correct string should be "0x340,11,7,1,1" - the "7" represents your
scsi card ID (which, if you have not changed it, defaults to 7).
Sorry again.
==============
Regards,
Ridzwan Abdullah
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From: VP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reiserfs problems?I can't mount ..
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:36:53 GMT
I can't mount my sdb7 reiserfs partition (I have there some importante
files, my sources codes)
When I going to mount the partition the kernel(2.4.5) crash with this
logs
..Jun 12 23:12:32 zendo kernel: ReiserFS version 3.6.25
..ernel: reiserfs: checking transaction log (device 08:17) ...
..kernel: scsi0: ERROR on channel 0, id 1,\
lun 0, CDB: 0x28 00 01 13 54 70 00 00 08 00
.. kernel: Info fld=0x1135470, Current sd08:17: sns = f0 3
.. do kernel: ASC=11 ASCQ= 0
.. kernel: Raw sense data:0xf0 0x00\
0x03 0x01 0x13 0x54 0x70 0x18 0x00 0x00 0x00\
0x00 0x11 0x00 0x00 0x80 0x00 0x35 0x00\
0x00 0x10 0x66 0x00 0x00 0x0c 0x6e 0x02 0x6c 0x00 0x6c 0x00 0x00
.. o kernel: I/O error: dev 08:17, sector 50256
l: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer\
dereference at virtual address 00000034
.. kernel: printing eip:
.. kernel: c019843f
.. kernel: *pde = 00000000
..Jun 12 23:13:51 xxx kernel: Oops: 0000
...Jun 12 23:13:51 xxx kernel: CPU: 0
.. kernel: EIP: 0010:[journal_transaction_is_valid+15/416]
.. kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282
.. kernel: eax: 00000000 ebx: 00000000 ecx: dcffde40 edx: dcffde40
..kernel: esi: db3f2000 edi: 0000188a ebp: ddd14800 esp: d994de10
..kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
..kernel: Process mount (pid: 589, stackpage=d994d000)
..ernel: Stack: 00000000 db3f2000 0000188a ddd14800\
dcffde8c c0198db2 ddd14800 00000000\
..kernel: d994de74 d994de78 00000817 0000188a\
00001000 ddd14800 00000000 c032f720
...kernel: 00004000 00000001 00000001 db6ad000 00000014\
000016fb 3b26a22c 00: Call Trace: [journal_read+482/1056]\
[journal_init+678/832] [reiserfs_read_super+237/1040]\
[get_empty_super+76/416] [read_super+99/176]\
[get_sb_bdev+347/448] [error_code+52/60]
.. kernel: [do_mount+373/688]..
Is a Hardware problem i try averything with the reiserfs utilities ,
but nothing ..
Any hlep is apreciated
Thanks
V.P.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg)
Subject: Re: Now I've Lost My Network Card! (was: re: Sound Module Problems)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:40:18 GMT
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:48:21 GMT, in a place far, far away,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg) made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:
>After I removed the PCI sound card that I couldn't get to work, and
>rebooted, my Unicom card won't come up.
>
>When I do modprobe winbond-840, I get the message "device or resource
>busy."
>
>I didn't do anything to the NIC. I just turned the machine off to
>check again, and the card is in tight.
>
>Did Kudzu do something when it woke up and found the sound card
>missing?
>
>Any ideas?
Never mind...
The card is in a sloppy PCI slot, and I joggled it loose. I put it
back in, and it's fine now...
--
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interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org
"Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..."
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From: "Curious George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 7.1 on 16MB of RAM
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:05:01 +0100
Has anyone managed to install RedHat 7.1 with only 16MB of RAM? I
understand that it's probably only the graphical installation program which
causes the problem, and I don't want all the whistles and bells (GNOME,
etc.) as these would only slow down my rather aged machine. Linux is meant
to work on the lowliest of boxes, so I've no doubt that it's possible to run
a perfectly serviceable - if heavily pruned - version of RH 7.1 on my
difference engine. Any help would be much appreciated.
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Hard Drive Re-partitioning
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:56:27 -0400
John Thompson wrote:
> Thanks for responding. The drive itself is a 9G Seagate in an
> external enclosure attached to an Adaptec 2490 HBA. It is the
> only external device; internally, there are two 2G Seagate
> drives, an Exabyte tape drive and a 40x HP CDROM drive. All the
> devices are ercognized by the HBA when the system boots and all
> have unique SCSI ID's assigned. All the internal devices work
> fine; only the external drive is giving us problems. Both ends
> of the SCSI chain are terminated.
Sorr to harp on this, but I'm just trying to be thorough and
not miss anything. When you say "both ends of the SCSI chain
are terminated", exactly how are they terminated? Does the
drive itself have termination, or are you using an external
termination on the cable? Normally, the controller card
acts as the termination on that end of the cable, and you
only terminate the far end, either with the last drive in
the chain or else with a separate termination. Can you provide
more details?
If this doesn't turn up a clue to the problem, then I'm afraid
I'm stumped.
> > And, as Dr. Breuer said, what does /var/log/dmesg show?
> The linux kernel identifies the device as "SCSI device sdc
> 17755614 512-byte hdwr sectors (9091MB)" but the next line reads
> "sdc: unknown partition table"
Well, I guess I'd expect that, as you indicated that you were
having trouble partitioning the drive.
I suppose it's possible that you simply have a bad drive. Did
you just purchase it, or is it one you've had around for a
while? If it's new, maybe you can swap it for another one?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Why is my sound card locking up my machine?
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:03:29 GMT
I've got a new cm8338-based sound card that I'm trying to use in my
RH6.2 system (running 2.2.19 of my own build). After many travails
(available in another thread in c.o.l.setup for those interested) I
got the drivers installed.
I can run 'modprobe cmpci' and it doesn't squawk, other than to tell
me that my /etc/modules.conf is more recent than ../../modules.dep.
I can load the mixer, and the CD player. But when I try to actually
make it make some kind of sound (e.g., esd from the command line), the
system locks up instantly and has to be hard rebooted.
I've looked at /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports and see no conflicts
of cmpci with anything else. What other diagnostics can I do to see
why sound attempts send the machine off to never-never land?
--
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interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org
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