Linux-Setup Digest #457, Volume #21              Sat, 16 Jun 01 22:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Setting up Linux on a fully scsi system (Paul Lew)
  Re: The Three Fingered Salute (John Thompson)
  Re: Set Up on a Compaq Prolinea 466 ("David Anderson")
  Re: phonesync for linux (Michael Heiming)
  Re: reboot log... (Michael Heiming)
  Re: Problem on SuSe 6.3 installation (Stephan Weinberger)
  Re: mandrake 8 install ("Jon_H")
  Changing physical location of IDE drive (Mike W.)
  Re: help with cable modem (Robert M. Taylor, Jr.)
  Re: Changing physical location of IDE drive ("Nils")
  Re: Changing physical location of IDE drive ("Glitch")
  Re: Ports ("Glitch")
  Re: HELP! KERNEL COMPILATION ("Glitch")
  Re: 2.4 Kernel Upgrade Questions ("Glitch")
  Re: CD-rom w/RH 6.2 ("Glitch")
  Re: extreme newbiness ("Glitch")
  Errata Re: Buying a CDR/RW (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: phonesync for linux ("Jeff D. Hamann")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Setting up Linux on a fully scsi system
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:18:22 GMT

Forget the "msgs advice", they are for itself (linux) and are NOT
errors, just info.
e.g. I also get the assuming 33 thru "the probe irqs later" and I now
have 2 ide harddrives as well as 1 scsi harddrive plus 2 scsi cdroms.
My "errors":
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686b (rev 40) IDE UDMA100 controller on pci00:07.1
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP KA9.1, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 52049U4, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14


The other "error msgs" aren't errors either but just the printing
the msgs of what the 2.4.x kernel is doing; don't believe that these
msgs appear prior to the 2.4.x kernel which displays a tremendos
amount of stuff before it is up and running.  Also, the IRQ for the IDE
is found only because the ide drives were found; in your case, no irq
because no ide drives.

I've had a pure scsi system until I needed to upgrade the harddrives
to larger capacity than 1 gig (:-)) and the ide drives were fast
enough for what I do.  1 gig drives don't do much to hold/use for
an OS with apps these days.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd wrote:
> Hi,
> I am having trouble setting up red-hat 7.1 on my computer, which is a
> dual PII 300mhz that is all SCSI.
> When starting the Red hat install with default settings I get an error
> similar to this:
> 
> Assuming 33 MHz bus
> PIIx4: IDE control on PCI bus 00 dev c9
> PIIx4: chipset revision 1
> PIIx4 not 100% native will probe irqs later
> SAMURI: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev c9
> PCI: Enabling device 00:19.1 (0004->0005)
> PCI: No IRQ know for interrupt pin A of Device 00:19.1 try pci=biosirq
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfc70-0xfc77, bios setting hdc:pio, hdd:pio
> ide2: BM-DMA at 0xfc78-0xfc7f
> 
> If I take the error messages advice and try setting pci=biosirq
> I just get the same error where it freezes on the last line,
> ide2: BM-DMA at... but without the suggestion to set pci=biosirq.
> So, I tried setting pci=off, which got me past the ide2 freeze,
> however, now it doesn't recognize the cd-rom drive.
> I know Red-hat supports the cd-rom drive because it is in the list
> of devices, Adaptec AHA2940 Ultra...
> 
> I believe the problem is that by disabling the pci bus I am losing 
> communications with the SCSI device.  If anyone has any ideas
> the help would be greatly appreciated my e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> thanks,
>   todd
> 
> The SCSI control :
> Adaptec AHA-2940V/AHA-2940VW PCI SCSI Controller
> The cd-rom:
> Plextor cd-rom PX-20TS SCSI
> The IDE controller: (which I don&#8217;t believe is used by any
> devices)
> IDE ATA/ATAPI cntrl

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Three Fingered Salute
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:46:45 -0500

Lew Targett wrote:

> An easy question. When a program freezes, such as Netscape which does so not
> infrequently, how do you close the program down without re-booting.
> Ctrl/Alt/Backspace does not always work.

Bring up an xterm and run "top."  Find the bunged process (often
near the top of the list, as Netscape likes a generous helping of
cpu cycles), press "k" to kill, enter the PID and press return. 
If the default signal 15 doesn't do it, try again with signal 9. 

-- 


-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Set Up on a Compaq Prolinea 466
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:44:05 +0200
Reply-To: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Could you be more specific? what is the error message that follows the
kernel panic? how is your hard drive partitionned?

--
David Anderson
--
REALITY.SYS not found. Universe halted.
"Does God use Windows 98?"




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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: phonesync for linux
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:48:42 +0200

"Jeff D. Hamann" wrote:
> 
> I have a win2k laptop and would like to run more linux on the machine and
> would like to find out if there'sn app that I can store AND transfer (like
> phonesync) names and numbers to my cell phone. Is there such a thing?
> 
> Jeff.

Depending on the phone you use it may be available, try searching
freshmeat.net.

Good luck

Michael Heiming

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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reboot log...
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:06:50 +0200

"Jeff D. Hamann" wrote:
> 
> I happend to notice my "ever so stable" RH7.1 box (only os on the machine)
> and has been running just fine (at least I think since i haven't done the
> obligitory "uptime" command in a while) and notice that the machine was
> rebooting! I hadn;t touched the machine (it's not connected to a network)
> and I've never noticed the behavoir before. Is there a log to look at
> that'll tell me why the machine rebooted, or when the machine rebooted?
> 
> Jeff.

Take a look at the various log files in /var/log/, a line like:
"... kernel: klogd <version>, log source = /proc/kmsg started."
Shows the reboot date/time. Maybe the system was able to log
something about the shutdown?

Michael Heiming

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From: Stephan Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
ahn.tech.linux,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.linux.xxx,alt.linux.suse,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.best,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.pl.comp.os.linux.debian,at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,cz.comp.linux.suse,fj.os.linux.setu
Subject: Re: Problem on SuSe 6.3 installation
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:34:11 +0200

> When I boot the CD of SuSe 6.3, it automatically go to YaTS2.   However, the
> screen font/resolution is too big to fit into the 9" VGA monitor.   Please
> advise how to shrink the screen (adjust the resolution) to fit the monitor.

Try booting from the Disk or from CD2. This will start Yast1 which is in
text-mode.

-- 
cu             mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  stephan       www: http://www.sbox.tu-graz.ac.at/home/w/weini
To err is human; to really screw things up requires the root password

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From: "Jon_H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mandrake 8 install
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:03:44 +0100

All sorted  it seems that it didn't like the CD drive which works fine under
WINDOZE so i swapped it out with the DVD from my windows box and all is now
fine
cheers
Jon_H

Jon_H wrote in message ...
>keep getting the error message
>Error! unable to uncompress second stage ramdisk
>
>any ideas
>jon_H
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike W.)
Subject: Changing physical location of IDE drive
Date: 16 Jun 2001 16:39:02 -0700

I have Linux installed on /dev/hdf (slave on 3rd channel), but
I want to move it to /dev/hdg (master on 4th channel), in order
to put it on a separate channel.

Can I do this w/o reinstalling Linux?

Thanks.

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From: Robert M. Taylor, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help with cable modem
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:48:09 GMT

Try setting up rp_pppoe. If you are using pppoe, hostname is whatever you 
call your machine. PPPOE (point-to-point-protocol-over-ethernet) uses DHCP 
so all you need to configure is your ethernet card and the DNS addresses. 
If you use rp-pppoe the pppoe-setup script will take care of this. Answer 
the questions asked by the script. When done type "adsl-start". I know you 
have cable, but this should work.
olgnuby wrote:

> "G.BULOT" wrote:
> > 
> > "MadMax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message news:
> > 9gf290$t6m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > I dont't find hello or something, like that there !
> > 
> > > ok my isp is 21st century.  I have the my ip adress, which i believe
> > > is dynamic because i can release and renew it, subnet mask, gate, dns,
> > adapter,
> > > and dhcp.  I dont have my host name.  Does anyone know how i can find
> > > my
> > > hostname through windows without calling my isp?  Ive tried winipcfg
> > > but
> > > that gives me jargon.  Also what else do i need to use a cable modem
> > > with debian which is my linux distribution software ?
> > >
> > >
> > hi,
> > 
> > With winipcfg, do you use the 'more info' button ?, after at the first
> > line you have your hostname (and domain name)
> > 
> > ...
> Bon Jour ;-)
> 
> He's a pretty good guy. 16, but trying hard and learning fast. You guys
> help him out all you can. I pretty well stepped him through from scratch
> on his Deb base install from off the web and he's done damn good. Going
> to make a hell of a Linux user and maybe future asset to the community.
> I've gone about as far as my limited knowledge can take him ;-)
> 
> I read his hostname as localhost.localdomain but know nothing about his
> pci fa310fx eth card. Maybe one of you can clue him.
> 
> Regards from Texas to France.
> 
> Charlie
> 

-- 
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
bob@osprey:~


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From: "Nils" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing physical location of IDE drive
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 02:56:50 +0200

it should'nt be a great problem
change /etc/fstab
reboot with bootdisk
kernel param root=/dev/hdg?
edit lilo.conf
lilo -v
reboot

Nils



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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing physical location of IDE drive
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:05:52 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mike W."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have Linux installed on /dev/hdf (slave on 3rd channel), but I want to
> move it to /dev/hdg (master on 4th channel), in order to put it on a
> separate channel.
> 
> Can I do this w/o reinstalling Linux?
> 

yes, you will need to make appropriate changes in lilo.conf if you are
using LILO and also change some field values in /etc/fstab.  After those
changes rerun lilo and after u boot up with the new location of the drive
it should work like nothing changed in the first place.

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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ports
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:27:54 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "adam851"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can somebody please give a quick definition of Ports.What they do,and
> how you find out more info about them.(Most Linux books always talk
> about ports but forget that many people arn't computer profesionals)
> Thanks
> 

Ports only exist in software.  A port is represented as  16 bit number that is
used in conjunction with an IP address to allow more than 1 application one
computer A to communicate with more than 1 application on computer B.

Because all comunication for apps goto the same IP if they are going to
the same computer they couldn't all talk w/o having a 'subdivided
highway' to do so. Ports provide 'lanes' for separate applications to
communicate between the same hosts. W/o ports only one app could
communicate between 2 hosts at one time.

you can see a list of the most well known ports by looking at
/etc/services

Ports are part of layer 4 of the OSI model. Both TCP and UDP protocols
can use ports, which you will see if you look at /etc/services. 

HTTP uses port 80, telnet is 23, ssh is 22, ftp is 20 and 21, smtp is 25.
Realize these ports are just the standard for these protocols. The
protocols don't have to use these ports but they are pretty much the
standard.

I don't have any reference material for you. Someone else Im sure does
though.

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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! KERNEL COMPILATION
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:31:30 -0400

In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Christian Diego Cernuschi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am setting up a linux box with a suse 7.1. I first made a minimal
> installation and now i want to install only what i need.
> I need to enable disk quota, so i guess i have to recompile the kernel.
> Which packages i need to install?
> PLEASE HELP.
> 

well you need to install the kernel source, however I would suggest just
downloading the newest kernel from ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux and
after its done do the following in /usr/src (after deleting the "linux"
link):

tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz  (assuming u downloaded the tar.gz version)

This will create a directory called linux. Enter it and read the README.
All the steps are in there to recompile.

Rmember to delete the symbolic link called 'linux' that is in /usr/src
before you untar the new kernel.

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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4 Kernel Upgrade Questions
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:36:58 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rand Simberg"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was reading an article that said that before upgrading to 2.4 from
> 2.2, I should upgrade modutils to at least version 2.4.
> 
> Unfortunately, I had already done the upgrade (on a RH6.2 system with a
> 2.2.19 kernel) before reading this.  However, I got no complaints. It
> might be because I didn't use any modules, but included my network and
> sound cards in the kernel build?
> 
> Anyway, RH doesn't have anything beyond 2.3 available for my
> distribution.  So, is it now, or was it ever, necessary for me to do the
> modutil upgrade, and if so, how do I do it from source?  Can someone
> point me to a good HOWTO for it?
> 

I didn't upgrade to modutils 2.4 either and the only thing i noticed that
was affected was the fact that the version of insmod/modprobe that I have
coudln't initially load any modules b/c they coudln't find my modules.  

THe reason for this is b/c kernel 2.4 uses a different subdirectory
structure under /lib/modules/2.4.x/ to hold the modules. B/c of the
different structure I believe old versions of modutils can't find the
modules.  I just created the same directory structure under
/lib/modules/2.4.5 as was in /lib/modules/2.2.13 (or whatever versions
your kernels are) and copied the modules  to the appropriate place. After
this my old versions of insmod/modprobe could load the modules b/c they
were where insmod expected them to be.

Did you get all that? lol
HTH

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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-rom w/RH 6.2
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:39:24 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Larry Pazdernik"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> *** post for FREE via your newsreader at post.newsfeeds.com ***
> 
> I have RedHat Linux 6.2. Can someone help with the following problem?
> When my Pc boots up, Kudzu starts and says that it wants to remove my
> Cd-rom drive from my system, but I can't seem to get it to add the CD,
> or recognize it.
> 
> When I try to mount the CD after logging in , I get a message that says
> something like this:
> "/dev/cdrom is not a recognized as a block device" or something very
> similar."
> 

maybe RH 6.2 deleted the /dev/cdrom link that existed. Check to see if the
link is still there.  If not, create it and then try mounting a CD again.
If it is there i'd check to make sure cdrom support is in your kernel,
but i would think it would be since cdroms are so widely used, and have
been for many years.

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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: extreme newbiness
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:45:37 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sean9182"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Using: RedHat Linux 5.1 (until i can download the upgrad which hasn't
> been working either), HP 533mhz, 64MB RAM, 20GB, etc etc
> 
> well, I've successfully (and by successful I mean not) managed to
> partition my hard drive into two separate allocations of memory. I did
> this in DOS using fips.exe. Before I even begin to tell of my problems
> with creating partitions in Disk Druid, let me begin by saying that when
> I check the 'Properties' of this new 5GB hda I am perturbed by Windows'
> graphical blue cylinder which wields the sentences "Free Space   0
> bytes" "Used Space  0 bytes". Added to this is the 5GB missing from the
> other hda with now only contains 15GB, partially used by Windows.
> 
> Moving on to Disk Druid, I can make the Swap Partition...hell, I can
> even make partitions for subdirectories,  but I am unable to create a
> linux root partition-- each and every time I receive this blasted error
> message: 'Root partition too big'.
> 

/boot partitions shouldn't be located past the 1023th cylinder of a drive
b/c older version of LILO and some BIOSes can't load kernel images past
this section of a hard drive. Obviously Disk Druid is playing it safe and
won't let you do what you want.  Since you are using RH 5.1 it doesn't
have the new LILO. What u will need to do is make a small 15 meg /boot
partition under tthe 1024th cylinder of your drive, preferrably just at
the begining of the drive, then make a / partition after that and if you
want, a swap partition as well. And if you need to also make partitions
for Windows/DOS.

Also, I don't advise making Linux partitions using fips.exe in DOS. Use
Linux partitioning tools to make linux partitions. You don't use Linux's
fdisk to make a dos partition do you?  The partition types will be
incorrect if u use a DOS fdisk program and Windows will think the linux
partitions are Windows partitions, which you definitely DO NOT want.

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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Errata Re: Buying a CDR/RW
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:13:23 +1000

It is aus.ads.forsale.computers.new


Stanislaw Flatto wrote:

> Julian Bordas wrote:
>
> >
> > The HD is on a different interface to the CDR.  Do you know of any
> > suppliers of SCSI CDR/RW ?
>
> Me again.
> Chance on aus.ads.computers.new. Suppliers of everything.
> Used them few times.
>
> > Julian
>
> Stanislaw.


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From: "Jeff D. Hamann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: phonesync for linux
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:01:51 -0700

ahhhhh. i should have guessed. thanks.


"Michael Heiming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Jeff D. Hamann" wrote:
> >
> > I have a win2k laptop and would like to run more linux on the machine
and
> > would like to find out if there'sn app that I can store AND transfer
(like
> > phonesync) names and numbers to my cell phone. Is there such a thing?
> >
> > Jeff.
>
> Depending on the phone you use it may be available, try searching
> freshmeat.net.
>
> Good luck
>
> Michael Heiming



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