On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:56:07AM -0500, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Luc Verhaegen <l...@skynet.be> wrote:
> > I tried to order myself one of those cheap Q88 tablets with an A13 just
> > now. Big was my surprise when i got it and popped it open, as i was
> > staring at an A23.
> >
> > Bad news all round really:
> > * fully locked down android, no root, no adb. I will give another root
> > exploit a try tomorrow.
> > * our fel utility does not work.
> > * we of course have no code for u-boot or linux yet.
> > * nothing on the serial port.
> >
> > This device is a really serious GPL violator. They even went as far as
> > removing all open source licenses from the About section under android
> > settings.
> 
> Before jumping to conclusions we need to ask Allwinner for the A23
> Android source. I suspect they will provide that as soon you are able
> to locate someone who can fulfill the request. They've released the
> source for all of their other chips so I wouldn't expect this one to
> be any different.
> 
> Many people have been bugging Allwinner to put up a public git repo
> instead handing out tar balls. I also wish they's do a unified Android
> release that works on all of their CPUs. Will we ever get Kitkat for
> the A10?
> 
> So the GPL violator here is likely the Q88 motherboard manufacturer.
> First you will need to identify who it is. That is not a simple task
> since it is unlikely to be the company that did final assembly.  After
> you find them you'll need to explain the GPL to them since they
> probably don't understand it.  I'd also be suspicious that this
> company shipped a beta from Allwinner which wasn't really ready for
> release.
> 
> Once the Allwinner A23 SDK is located it shouldn't be too hard to load
> it and replace whatever this Q88 vendor did.
> 
> This is just a long education process for these vendors. Allwinner
> appears to understand the GPL and seems to be trying to comply with
> it. Now Allwinner needs to work on educating their customers on how to
> comply too.

This was mostly a heads-up for allwinner or for those who have contacts 
within allwinner: The hw is out there, and it is currently in clear 
violation. Please let us get this resolved.

Luc Verhaegen.

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