On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 02:14:07PM -0700, Jason wrote: > Luc, I deliberately ignored your earlier sarcasm. If you don't want to help > then that's fine no one's forcing you to. But your incessant (and utterly > pointless) RTFM style responses to every question are now becoming > irritating. > > Your request that others respect proper 'netiquette' would carry more > weight if you practiced what you preach. > > I've already read the unnecessarily aggressive (and slightly obnoxious) > message on the 'New Device Howto' page which basically says you won't > provide any help until someone's worked through the guide. I get it. You > don't need to repeat it. > > The problem with the NDH (as you insist on calling it) is that, in many > places, it's vague and/or incomplete. More importantly, it assumes that the > reader already possesses a vast amount of hightly specialised knowledge. > The hoops you expect someone to jump through before you'll deign to help > them are frankly ridiculous. You're basically saying that you expect > someone to spend many days working everything out from first principles, > and finally get to the point where they don't really need any help, before > you'll help them! > > What's even more ridiculous is that I'm trying to work through the damn > NDH! But I can't submit my u-boot patches (or presumably anything else) > until I create a 'complete' (whatever that means) device page, and I can't > complete a device page until I know more about my device! Hence my > questions.
What you do not see is that the NDH makes very important information accessible to those that you are asking for help here. In this specific case: * A fex file will tell us how your wifi is connected, so we can give constructive hints on how to further identify this chip from there. * A good picture of your board will help us identify your chips. * ... If the NDH is vague on things, then it is probably because people never really encountered those issues before. We have come up with 2 obscure wifi makers so far, and yet we seem to have managed just fine. And if we would cover all eventualities, then you would be even less willing to read through all of it. Go fill up the page with any information you retrieved already, as you go along, not at the very end of the process. The NDH is very very clear on that. Also, our mailing list rejects no patches. They might not hit the repos, but they will be here for all to see. Luc Verhaegen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
