On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Jason <[email protected]> wrote:

> Luc, I deliberately ignored your earlier sarcasm. If you don't want to
> help then that's fine no one's forcing you to. But your incessant (and
> utterly pointless) RTFM style responses to every question are now becoming
> irritating.
>
> Your request that others respect proper 'netiquette' would carry more
> weight if you practiced what you preach.
>
> I've already read the unnecessarily aggressive (and slightly obnoxious)
> message on the 'New Device Howto' page which basically says you won't
> provide any help until someone's worked through the guide. I get it. You
> don't need to repeat it.
>
> The problem with the NDH (as you insist on calling it) is that, in many
> places, it's vague and/or incomplete. More importantly, it assumes that the
> reader already possesses a vast amount of hightly specialised knowledge.
> The hoops you expect someone to jump through before you'll deign to help
> them are frankly ridiculous. You're basically saying that you expect
> someone to spend many days working everything out from first principles,
> and finally get to the point where they don't really need any help, before
> you'll help them!
>
> What's even more ridiculous is that I'm trying to work through the damn
> NDH! But I can't submit my u-boot patches (or presumably anything else)
> until I create a 'complete' (whatever that means) device page, and I can't
> complete a device page until I know more about my device! Hence my
> questions.
>
> I think this is a concise description of the problem we are seeing again
and again at linux-sunxi.
Just the other week there was another person that attempted to add their
device
and simply gave up due to Luc being passive aggressive and obnoxious.

It is probably the case that he had to endure himself such a treatment when
he was learning,
and now he is replicating it to others. It's toxic behavior, and that's not
how a community works.

The deeper issue is that lack of empathy, the ability to feel/think how
someone different is feeling/thinking.

Luc's actions do not represent the actions of the linux-sunxi community.

Simos

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