Dear Simos,
"I noticed in your recent blog post that you are starting
linux-exynos.org." - Simos Xenitellis.
"Since you are starting linux-exynos.org, you need to learn this new
thing." - Simos Xenitellis.
I am one of the two people who has worked on setting up linux-exynos.org
for the past year
as a response to Luc's talk at FOSDEM 2014. At that talk Luc explained
that what sets Allwinner
SoCs apart from other SoCs is its community, which other SoCs, such as
the Samsung Exynos,
clearly lacked at that time. For example, the instructions for
installing Linux on the Chromebooks
were all scattered around the world-wide web on the Chromium website,
several blog posts,
several forum threads, etc. What also happened at that talk is that my
friend Merlijn "Wizzup"
Wajer asked for some pointers on setting up a community for it, which
Luc explained thoroughly.
Let me get these facts straight for you, as it seems that you are
implying that Luc is shifting
towards linux-exynos:
- Luc does have an account on our wiki, but hasn't contributed
anything. I am not necessarily
expecting him to do that either, because it is likely that he
already has his hands full with the
linux-sunxi community. [1]
- Luc is present on both #linux-exynos and #linux-sunxi.
- Luc has never replied to any of the mails on the linux-exynos
mailing lists, as none of them are
relevant to him, I'd presume.
Then we have Luc's blog post [2], of which the last section, and only
the last section, explains that,
as a graphics driver developer, he has to work with various SoCs, which
other than sharing the same
GPU, are very different. For linux-sunxi one of the frustrating parts is
the display driver, and for
linux-exynos one of the frustrating parts is the broken KMS driver.
Again Luc clearly indicates that
linux-sunxi was the only active community at that time, and that that
was what other SoCs clearly
lacked. He also states that even though he has been working a lot on the
linux-sunxi community, he
does not want to do this for other communities as he does not have the
time for that. Rightfully so,
I'd say. Then this last section continues with the story I started this
e-mail with, and the rest is simply
a call to help us, if you can and want to, of course.
Concerning the linux-sunxi wiki, if you want to get somewhere, then
first of all stop throwing a bunch
of argumenta ad hominem into an e-mail to a public mailing list. It
simply won't get you anywhere.
Rather than editing the wiki as you see fit, it is usually better to
address the issues of the wiki, propose
some changes and talk about your proposal with active members of the
community, such as Luc. I am
quite sure that if you do this properly, that you can reach a point of
consensus in that regard.
Community building is not about blaming one single person within a
community, it is a matter of
working as a community, talking to each other, and trying to get somewhere.
Finally, if you don't like how someone is reacting to you, then remember
that it is hard to read
someone's feelings from an e-mail, and that you can always change your
own approach to get a
different reaction. In the worst case you have to let it rest for a
while, instead of adding more fuel to
the blazing fire. That way you also get yourself some time to think
about it.
Yours faithfully,
S.J.R. van Schaik.
1. http://linux-exynos.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Libv
2. http://libv.livejournal.com/27388.html
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