On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 06:29:05PM -0700, Matthew Dharm wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 05:32:25PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 03:11:12PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > Greg:
> > > 
> > > As a result of a recently-applied change, there are two new subclass and 
> > > protocol codes for the usb-storage unusual_devs.h file.  The codes are 
> > > US_SC_DEVICE and US_PR_DEVICE; their meaning is that the driver should use 
> > > whatever value the device supplies instead of overriding it.
> > 
> > But isn't the entry usually needed to override one of the values in the
> > first place?
> > 
> > I'm sorry, but I'm still confused, a simple example might be best to
> > help me out.
> 
> 'Usually' is a word I do not like.  Some of the time, one of these values
> needs to be overriden.  Sometimes it does not.  If the device only needs
> flags (a common condition), then you override is actually needed.
> 
> Imagine a device that properly announces class/subclass/protocol of
> 0x8/0x6/0x50 -- but chokes on the START_STOP command.
> 
> (Aside: This is a contrived example, as we fixed the START_STOP problem
> upstream, but for a long time this was a very real situation.)
> 
> The entry would (in the past) be formulated with US_PR_BULK and US_SC_SCSI
> and list US_FL_START_STOP.
> 
> Now, the entry would read US_PR_DEVICE, US_SC_DEVICE, US_FL_START_STOP.
> 
> As a second example, consider a device that announces 0xff/0xff/0xff -- yet
> actually works with US_PR_BULK and US_SC_UFI (I happen to know that there
> are actually devices like this in existance).  Their entry under both the
> old and new system would use US_PR_BULK and US_SC_UFI.
> 
> Is that any more clear?

Very much so, thanks for taking the time to explain it to me.

thanks,

greg k-h


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