Thanks Bjorn & Dmitri.

Do you think i can power the USB enclosure externally with say a 6V (500mA) 
supply, and that do the trick (i think most power adapters that you find 
with telephone/answeringmachine etc. fit that range, atleast in the 
US)...!!!

powering thru the IDE directly might be heck of a job for me, coz' i'd have 
to saw apart the IDE connector or rip off the soldered leg.

bdutta.

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>From: Dmitri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: Bj�rn Stenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, banibrata dutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Linux-usb-users] USB HDD enclosure not detected by kernel 
>(RH7.2)
>Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:13:47 -0800
>
>Quoting Bj�rn Stenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Dmitri wrote:
> >
> > > I would *very much* doubt that the HDD can be fed with USB power. Most
> > > HDDs are really power-hungry, and they want dual (+5V, +12V) power
> > > supplies.
> >
> > Actually 2.5" harddisks don't use +12V, only +5V. It seems most drives
> > need more than the maximum 2.5W when spinning up but less when in use. 
>So,
> > theoretically, you could solve the power-up surge with a really big
> > capacitor or something, but you'd still be pushing the limit.
>
>Indeed I remember playing with 2.5" HDD couple of years ago, it had a
>small adapter and just IDE connector on the other side... but the FAQ from
>the Chinese site mentioned +12V, and I focused on that. Maybe it is not
>relevant to the drive being used.
>
> > Since disk power loss is a rather unpleasant experience, I personally
> > would not trust a unit that tries to live off the USB power.
>
>This gives me the idea why the older laptop CRASHED upon plugging the
>device in. I think, it overloaded the bus, and the root hub generated the
>appropriate event (overload). But it is a rare event, and probably was not
>debugged well in earlier revisions of the OS. That's why it could crash.
>
>Even worse, if that older laptop wasn't equipped with the required USB
>power switch (something like Micrel MIC2025) then the power on the whole
>section of the motherboard could be compromised, which could *easily* halt
>the CPU.
>
>The newer driver / new laptop didn't crash, but since the overload on port
>is pretty much hopeless anyway, that could explain why no device connect
>was produced - because there was no power! This can be tested with just a
>voltmeter.
>
>Another reason to suspect bad power is that some [small] notebooks have
>root hub ports that are only capable of 100 mA, not 500 mA as they should
>be. If so, the solution is simple - use the self-powered hub, or just cut
>the +5V line and connect it (drive side, of course!) to the external, good
>+5V power supply.
>
>Thanks,
>Dmitri
>
>--
>Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
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