hello Greg,

whatever I search about PalmOS PDA's on the internet, it always ends up to a page which mentions your name.
It sounds like you are the Linux-PalmOS guru !
I just got a Sony Clié TJ25 (guess why it was a few days ago...) and was quite sure there were ways to
HotSync it to my Asus Laptop which currently runs linux 2.4.21-0.13mdk.
I found valuable information reading the README.usb file in pilot-link-0.11.7 documentation.
I also found (where ? I can't remember) that it is possible to modprobe the visor module with vendor and
product parameters. Here is what I did and what I got :


[EMAIL PROTECTED] hwk]# modprobe usbserial
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hwk]# modprobe visor vendor=0x54c product=0x169
Warning: ignoring vendor=0x54c, no such parameter in this module
Warning: ignoring product=0x169, no such parameter in this module
Module visor loaded, with warnings
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hwk]# lsmod | sort
ac97_codec 12488 0 [i810_audio]
af_packet 14952 1 (autoclean)
appletalk 25700 13 (autoclean)
cdrom 31648 0 (autoclean) [ide-cd]
ds 8456 2 [serial_cs xirc2ps_cs]
ext3 59916 3
fat 37944 0 (autoclean) [vfat]
floppy 55132 0
hid 20900 0 (unused)
i810_audio 26248 2
ide-cd 33856 1 (autoclean)
input 5664 0 [usbmouse keybdev mousedev hid]
irda 112112 3 [irtty]
irtty 7392 2 (autoclean)
jbd 38972 3 [ext3]
keybdev 2720 0 (unused)
lp 8096 0 (autoclean)
Module Size Used by Not tainted
mousedev 5268 1
nfsd 74256 8 (autoclean)
nls_cp850 4316 2 (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-15 4092 2 (autoclean)
parport 34176 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
parport_pc 25096 1 (autoclean)
pcmcia_core 57184 0 [serial_cs xirc2ps_cs ds yenta_socket]
rtc 8060 0 (autoclean)
scsi_mod 103284 0 [usb-storage]
serial_cs 6000 0 (unused)
soundcore 6276 0 [i810_audio]
supermount 15296 2 (autoclean)
udf 90464 0 (autoclean)
usbcore 72992 1 [visor usbserial usb-storage usbmouse hid usb-uhci]
usbmouse 2936 0 (unused)
usbserial 21468 0 [visor]
usb-storage 72952 0 (unused)
usb-uhci 24652 0 (unused)
vfat 11820 2 (autoclean)
visor 10440 0 (unused)
xirc2ps_cs 14980 1
yenta_socket 13056 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hwk]#



The warning messages I got when modprobing visor let me suppose that my PDA was not on the market when the
visor module was written. Obviously, no connection was possible.


Then, for the fun of it, I took a chance at fooling the system : I replaced the productID 9a00 with 6901
in visor.0, line 1370 (as far as I can remember) and did almost the same in modules.usbmap, where I replaced
009a with 0169. I got better results on the Linux side, but the Clié kept ignoring my laptop.
Here is the syslog record :
Dec 29 11:07:47 asus7 kernel: usbserial.c: USB Serial support registered for Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 /
Clié 4.x
Dec 29 11:07:47 asus7 kernel: usbserial.c: USB Serial support registered for Sony Clié 3.5
Dec 29 11:07:47 asus7 kernel: visor.c: USB HandSpring Visor, Palm m50x, Sony Clié driver v1.6
Dec 29 11:09:08 asus7 kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 4
Dec 29 11:09:08 asus7 kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Clié 4.x converter detected
Dec 29 11:09:08 asus7 kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Clié 4.x: Number of ports: 2
Dec 29 11:09:08 asus7 kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Clié 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use
and is bound to ttyUSB0
Dec 29 11:09:08 asus7 kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Clié 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use
and is bound to ttyUSB1
Dec 29 11:09:08 asus7 kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Clié 4.x converter now attached to
ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs)
Dec 29 11:09:08 asus7 kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Clié 4.x converter now attached to
ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs)
Dec 29 11:09:12 asus7 /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB product 54c/169/100


(I am not using an USB hub and my laptop has a single USB port)

Well, at that point, I thihk I'd better ask people who know.
Is there any recent release of visor which takes care of the new Sony PDA's with PalmOS 5.x ? Where can I
find it ?
Or, is there any workaround I can implement myself ? (by the way, I am not very familiar with compiling
sources, and, for some reason I will investigate when I have nothing else to do, the Mandrake distribution
installer has not put any sources nor kernel config files in /usr/src/linux) ?


Can you help me ?

Thanks

Jean-Luc RENAUD
Paris - France


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