OK, In that case resort to non-hurtful name calling, and subtle suggestions
of improper behaviour?

In my view serial spammers are getting about as low as it can get on the IT
scale, although Nuclear weapons possibly are a slight over-reaction, the
Internet equivalent would be good.  The Blackholes do have an effect, but
not enough ISP's use them to be really effective.  If the number of
"targets" was reduced sufficiently by adoption of black holing or some other
anti-spam technology it might reduce the problem..

Another major issue is that so many people these days put servers online
that are open relays, and they don't know it..

Sendmail is particularly bad in that sense, the default install is a barn
door spam wise, as is Mdaemon and probably others I don't know anything
about.  They are all "pluggable" holes, but generally a server will be
online before the admins who put them online realise they are assisting
spammers in their game.

Spamming is the equivalent of sending those damned readers digest letters
(You have already Won!) with postage owing..  We all pay for it in our
internet access charges, bandwidth allocations, volume limits etc, whatever
is appropriate for your internet access charging model.

Users should 'petition' their ISP if they get too much spam, ask the ISP
what action they take, do they use blacklisting, blackholing, or any other
similar technology?  If there isn't a big price issue, shift ISP's to
someone who actively blocks the shite...

Cheers,  Chris Hellyar.

Selwyn District Council
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-----Original Message-----
From: Yuri de Groot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2001 20:43
To: Chris Hellyar; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: spam-protected postings to mailing lists


On Sun, 02 Dec 2001, Chris Hellyar wrote:
[snip]
> Resort to using small tactical nuclear weapons on anyone who spams you!
> 
> Cheers,  Chris Hellyar.

As a pacifist I rebuke you Chris. Nuking people is not nice. Even spammers
have
mothers who love them.

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