I second all those comments - we have a 512/128 cable link here at work, and
if I give the students open slather access to the web we can suck down 800
Mb a day.

Julian - you forgot to mention that ftp://debian.oparadise.net.nz/ has
debian, redhat, FreeBSD and some other stuff... and its in the local domain
which means no charges for traffic to there!

> ----------
> From:         Julian Carver[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:         Friday, February 08, 2002 10:01 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: CLUG Meeting 28th February-Topic and speaker-update
> 
> >
> >
> >Not entirely OT, but how do you find the Telstra cable service Julian?
> >
> Outstanding.  With Jetstream I had 4MB (as we're a wee way from the 
> exchange).  With Telstra I've got 2MB.  The 2MB with Telstra is about 
> 4-5 times faster than the 4MB with Jetstream.  There's much less latency 
> on loading pages, and downloads are consitently fast whereas with 
> Jetstream they were very variable.
> 
> Jetstream also used to stop working quite often, whereas Telstra has 
> only had a couple of hours downtime over several months.  The setup was 
> easy, the service has been brilliant.
> 
> The SaturnTV is really good too.  They've just added Sky 1, so I get to 
> watch the series of Buffy I missed :-)
> 
> Can't ask for more really.  Just a pity that they've slowed down their 
> rollout.  Hopefully they'll pick it back up once they've gotten through 
> the merger with Clear...
> 
> Julian
> 
> >
> >
> >J.
> > 
> >
> >>From: Julian Carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Date: 2002/02/08 Fri AM 08:46:42 GMT+12:00
> >>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Re: CLUG Meeting 28th February-Topic and speaker-update
> >>
> >>>
> >>>I'd be happy to stand up the front and say spare low end pentium w/
> 64Mb (realistic here!) & http://www.smoothwall.org  ;-)
> >>>
> >>I've used:
> >>
> >>    * WinGate on an NT network over dialup
> >>    * A small hardware Internet access device over dialup on a
> >>      Windows/Linux/Mac network
> >>    * Jetstream with no security on a Windows/Linux/Mac network
> >>    * Iptables on a workstation over Telstra Cable Internet (W/L/M)
> >>    * Smoothwall on an old Pentium 120/64MB over Telstra Cable Internet
> >>      (W/L/M)
> >>
> >>The last one is what I'm using now and it is by far the simplest, least 
> >>admin, most secure option.  It just stays on and keeps working.  The 
> >>other options required quite a lot of admin and kept breaking all the 
> >>time (apart from Jetstream which was easy but not secure).  Iptables was
> 
> >>OK but meant that if I wanted to do any rebuilds etc on my workstation 
> >>it disrupted access for the other machines.  So, I'd agree with Jeremy -
> 
> >>low spec pentium, 2 network cards, and use smoothwall or one of the 
> >>other purpose built firewall products.
> >>
> >>Perhaps two or three people who've done this stuff in a more 
> >>professional setting (ie unlike me who's only muddled through it once) 
> >>could lead a demo/discussion on the topic of
> networking/security/firewalls?
> >>
> >>Julian
> >>
> >>>
> >>>J.
> >>>
> >>>>From: Stuart Johnsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>Date: 2002/02/08 Fri AM 07:49:17 GMT+12:00
> >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>Subject: Re: CLUG Meeting 28th February-Topic and speaker-update
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi Nick (& co),
> >>>>        OK I'll admit it .....with regards to Linux I'm pretty much a 
> >>>>newbie :)
> >>>>
> >>>>The only experience I have with Linux was when I was given a "Linux
> for 
> >>>>Idiot books" for Christmas (with Red Hat 5.2) & actually had a go at 
> >>>>loading onto my machine as a dual boot config (Linux/....& dare I say
> it 
> >>>>......Win98). I actually did get the dual boot config to work without 
> >>>>either system swearing at each other however I came unstuck at the
> linux 
> >>>>end when I couldn't get either the sound or the modem to work. That is
> 
> >>>>basically as far as I have got.....however I would like to get a bit 
> >>>>further down the track in ability with regards to Linux. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>At some stage I'm looking to have Jetstart hooked up to my flat & I'm
> going 
> >>>>to be putting together a PC that will be acting as a firewall for the
> rest 
> >>>>of the flat. I want to use Linux to do the job....can't be bothered
> paying 
> >>>>a small fortune for a copy of Windoze to do that. What sort of
> hardware 
> >>>>requirements & software setup is required for that job ?
> >>>>
> >>>>How about that for a topic ? :)
> >>>>
> >>>>TIA
> >>>>
> >>>>Stuart
> >>>>At 04:24 8/02/02, you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>CLUG,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>=========================================================
> >>>>>1/
> >>>>>How about high-spec linux boxes and the inherent problems?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I have recently purchased a dual PIII with a Gb of ram that runs
> fine, and a
> >>>>>C900 with a Gb of ram that goes like a dog when running the bigmem
> option.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Doubtless some users there have had similar experiences, or perhaps
> they're
> >>>>>trying to use multi-terabyte disk arrays on a 2.0 machine or
> something like
> >>>>>that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Just a thought, and now that ram is piss-cheap more of us will start
> to
> >>>>>strike these problems.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>============================================================
> >>>>>2/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I would like some clarification of the differences in window managers
> eg
> >>>>>what does KDE load/set up which others do not (apart from the menus).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Also a firewall which reports unauthorised attempts to access my box
> >>>>>(say similar to Zonealarm for Windows)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>=============================================================
> >>>>>3/
> >>>>>Someone suggested at networking in general evening a while back?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>=============================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
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