On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 16:24:54 +1300 (NZDT)
John Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hokay, so I have just tried gentoo.
> 
> Got it installed, mostly working.
> 
> Now I have to re-install again. I made a very obscure mistake.
> 
> I compiled it -march=pentium4 -O3
> 
> No problem.
> 
> Except that puts mmx/sse instructions into the libs like libc.
> 
> But I make heavy use of valgrind, which can't, as yet, grok mmx/sse
> instructions.
> 
> And _everything_ uses libc.
> 
> So I basically have to redo my gentoo install.
> 
> Hmm. There are some things I like about gentoo, some things I don't.
> 
> Like whenever I reach for yet another app, its not there and I have to
> emerge it. Bugger.


yeah but you don't have to find the cd! I find it easier on smallish apps to do 
something like

emerge tcpdump, and a couple of minutes later you have the command at your fingertips.

recompiling X/kde etc is obviously a pain though.

> 
> Conclusion.
> 
> Gentoo is a good one for learning and in depth fiddling. I have learnt a
> thing or three about how modern linux distros work.
> 
> Gentoo is certainly not a good newbie distro, as a very experience linux
> user I enjoyed the "hands on" feel like I haven't had since the days of
> early Slackware.
> 
> Deadbat is hiding too much from me. I don't like Deadbat, its too slick,
> it hides too much, it buggers up my life too much. It is starting to feel
> very windowsy.  Many murky things go on hidden under layers of glueys.
> 
> Gentoo also not a good distro for the power user who urgently needs to get
> things done _now_.
> 
> I think its back to Debian for me.
> 
> Will anyone have a set of the 8 "testing" (sarge) Debian CD's at the
> meeting tommorrow?
> 
> 
> John Carter                             Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
> Tait Electronics                        Fax   : (64)(3) 359 4632
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> New Zealand
> 
> Good Ideas:
> Ruby                 - http://www.ruby-lang-org - The best of perl,python,scheme 
>without the pain.
> Valgrind             - http://developer.kde.org/~sewardj/ - memory debugger for 
>x86-GNU/Linux
> Free your books      - http://www.bookcrossing.com
> 
> 

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