> 2. Bitching about anything in private will not get anything done; it
>    is good you bitched about this publicly :) 

Bitching nothing. I'm proposing a hard and definite solution.

I remember the bad old days of heavy metal Mainframes. When they passed
on the costs to the end user, the mainframe usage vanished over night
and everyone bought PC's.

I'm saying the same solution applies at a network level. The costs are
high because we still have the "heavy metal" in the loop. ie. The
Telco's.

Replace the Telco's with a peer 2 peer network and the problem goes
away.

I'm hammering at the University, since they have the highest demanding
and most sophisticated users. If the local BOfH's, students and
lecturers put a bit into this they can form a core of a revolution here

I yammering on the Cantlug mailling list, since the smart users with the
OS that can take it into the wider community.

So you say you would hammer any connection to pieces with apt-get. But
if _anyone_ or any group mirrored Debian and that was available on a
local p2p network, your problem vanishes like mist before a BitTorrent.
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Let's keep this in perspective.

On the edge of a certain Galaxy, one of many billions of Galaxies, is a
small yellow star. One of the many billions stars in that Galaxy. 

Around that star orbits a planet. On the surface of that planet is a very very 
thin scum of carbon based life forms. A very very small fraction of that 
biomass regards themselves as autonomous intelligent beings.

And most of those would rather be watching television.

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