On Sunday 08 June 2003 16:20, Christopher Sawtell wrote:

> I have been most impressed with Gentoo Linux, which is a kind of cross
> between Linux and the *BSDs. They have essentially borrowed some of the
> better ideas behind the *BSD Ports system while retaining the Linux kernel
> etc. This allows _you_ to control the whole updating bit. They, Gentoo
> Central -- for want of a better name -- control the ports tree with extreme
> rigour, but do keep it up to date really pretty well, with _working_
> programs too what's more. If you want to cut yourself on the bleeding edge
> then you can too. They now offer pre-compiled binaries.
>
> Certainly, Gentoo offers, in my experience, an infinitely superior method
> of package management than either of the commonplace alternatives.
>
> Definitely a much less risky way of doing things than trusting that some
> anonymous pfy has got everything correct when he built an rpm file.

Seeing as the compilation / installation is automatic, I really doubt you go 
thru the code by hand first (no?), then how is this any better than a binary 
distribution? Is there a reason why one should trust Gentoo developers (or 
BSD developers, in Jim's case ;-) more than anyone else?

Sure, installing packages (whatever form they be in) provided by your distro 
is a better idea than installing 3rd party apps, I'm not disagreeing. But how 
is Gentoo (or BSD) unique here? 

It seems Chris trusts Gentoo developers. And Jim trusts BSD developers. Well I 
just want to stick my hand up and say, damit, I trust Debian developers! ;-)
I would assert that official Debian (stable) packages are controlled just as 
rigourously, and of just as high a quality as any of these other systems. 
Would anyone like to disagree?

Sure I could mess that all up by installing 3rd party apps (and frequently do, 
heh ;-) - but why can't I do that, compile 3rd party apps from source, on 
*BSD or Gentoo? hmmm?

Just because your distro of choice provides official packages, controlled by 
those who control the distro (what a novel concept eh? ;-) .... that doesn't 
make your distro:
a) unique
or;
b) better

in any way that I can tell. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

</rant>

Cheers,
Gareth

ps. all in good fun - I'm just as zealous as the rest of you (hey... where is 
Jason? can't we expect to see some Mandrake comments added to this? ;-) 
I'm not trying to start a distro flame war, honest :-)

pps. I downloaded Knoppix for the first time the other day (on a 56k modem - 
so that should be 'the other week', heh ;-) via bittorrent. Bittorrent is 
impressive. Knoppix more so. My brother has a computer that will only run 
windows 95, we've tried and failed many times to install various versions of 
windows and linux - put the Knoppix CD in and it detected everything 
perfectly, sound,video,network, the lot - all up and running in about a 
minute. I was very impressed.


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