I'm keen to help out.  I've run Gentoo for over a year now so should know my way 
around it enough to help people out.  I can also donate an Athlon 800Mhz box for 
distccing for the day.
I would recommend that people installing already have either a working distro 
installed, or know exactly what their hardware is.  Gentoo HW detection is lacking, 
and having working config files to reference against will save time.

Brad

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:44 a.m.
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brad Beveridge
> Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest (was Re: OpenBSD)
> 
> 
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:52, Brad Beveridge wrote:
> > Yep, we would also probably want to setup our own gentoo (partial) 
> > mirror rather than nfs sharing the portage tree.  I think I 
> remember 
> > somebody on this list doing that? Christopher - since this is your 
> > baby, do you want to figure out a rough roadmap of how to 
> go about a 
> > Gentoo distributed installfest?
> OK, First things first:-
> 
> How many people on the list would be seriously interested in this?
> The number interested will define the location of the venue.   
> Note that you _must_ have a linux compatible network card 
> installed in your 
> machine for this idea to even totter into the realm of 
> possiblity. We will also need a hub / switch with sufficient 
> ports for each machine.
> 
> > Some things to consider off the top of my head -
> 
> > Initial environment (boot CD or existing linux distro)
> Boot cd. Much simpler. There are CD image files which have 
> various stages of 
> 'normal' applications pre-compiled for one to be able to get a good 
> head-start on creating your own system customised to your own 
> requirements.
> 
> >  - Hardware detection/setup notes
> Currently, The Gentoo install requires you to generate a 
> custom kernel and set 
> of modules for your machine, and therefore you have to have 
> the knowledge and 
> information about your machine to be able to do that. 
> 
> >  - Portage mirror or sharing from NFS
> I had thought the latter, but the former is probably a better 
> idea. We'd need a machine ( grunt required is dependent on 
> number of attendees ) to 
> run a fast web server ( Boa? ) and 2 or 3 Gbytes spare disk space.
> 
> >  - DNS setup
> Depends on how many of us want to do this.
> IPCop has both a DHCP server and a pretty convenient static IP system.
> 
> >  - distcc setup (and at what stage)
> Umm, yes indeed, more thought and research needed,
> i.e. I know sfa about distcc.
> 
> >  - Kernel compiles
> See above, Yes we'll have to do them for each machine type.
> As always, the major difficulties are going to be getting the video 
> acceleration, sound cards and win-modems to work properly. 
> Very good place 
> for folks to learn how to build a custom kernel even if they 
> don't want to 
> install Gentoo.
> 
> >  - things to do while we wait on compilers :)
> Drink: tea; coffee; beer; wine. Eat, have lunch together 
> while machines do 
> their thing; chatter; sleep, and normal human functions as 
> appropriate.
> 
> 
> > Brad
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dale Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2003 9:42 a.m.
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest (was Re: OpenBSD)
> > >
> > >
> > > An idea would be to setup distcc on the boxes that are 
> built ...that 
> > > way ones with slower machines wouldnt be sitting there for 2 days
> > > waiting for stuff to
> > > compile .....
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Dale.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:37, you wrote:
> > > > I also think this is a good idea, but maybe not as a "public 
> > > > installfest" like the Mandrake/RedHat ones. Just a small
> > >
> > > gathering of
> > >
> > > > everyone on the list who wants to try Gentoo (*puts up 
> hand* ;-) 
> > > > or who wants to get updated packages quickly for their current
> > >
> > > system (if
> > >
> > > > they're on a modem connection at home). If you can share
> > >
> > > the portage
> > >
> > > > tree... and you can share the compiling...
> > > >
> > > > Could we have, say, everyone who gets an install up and
> > >
> > > working leave
> > >
> > > > their machine running to help others who are still
> > >
> > > installing? Is it
> > >
> > > > just me, or would that be _damn_cool_? ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Gareth
> > > >
> > > > >===== Original Message From
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== I
> > >
> > > > >think this is a good idea, though I expect it to be far
> > >
> > > more complex
> > >
> > > > >than a
> > > >
> > > > standard (Redhat/Mandrake) installfest.  As such, I would
> > >
> > > suggest that
> > >
> > > > the organisers have a "practise" run with a few experts who are 
> > > > willing to give Gentoo a try - so that some of the 
> issues can be 
> > > > ironed
> > > >
> > > > >out earlier.
> > > > >Personally I'm willing to come along & help out, and 
> I'll bring 
> > > > >my box to
> > > >
> > > > help out with the distcc compile effort.
> > > >
> > > > >Brad
> > > > >
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2003 11:16 p.m.
> > > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest (was Re: OpenBSD)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:22, you wrote:
> > > > >> > Gentoo is looking more feasible by the minute...I am
> > >
> > > running out
> > >
> > > > >> > of excuses not to at least try it. =)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Does all theis interest in Gentoo mean that we are going
> > >
> > > to have to
> > >
> > > > >> organise a Gentoo Installfest?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Not as silly as it might at first seem because it would
> > >
> > > then allow
> > >
> > > > >> the sharing of the portage tree. Mine is now at something of 
> > > > >> the order of ~1.7GBytes. Some of it might be old 
> files, but I 
> > > > >> did have a big purge not so long ago. That fileset could be 
> > > > >> shared around to minimise download bother, also gentoo
> > > > >> can now use the distributed compiling idea, so a group could
> > > > >> probably get it
> > > > >> all going pretty quickly - In a living memory time-span
> > >
> > > anyway :-)
> > >
> > > > >> Remember that the installation of Gentoo is not for the
> > >
> > > total newb,
> > >
> > > > >> but getting new packages and doing upgrades is totally ( 
> > > > >> 99.999%
> > > > >>
> > > > >> :-) free of
> > > > >>
> > > > >> problems.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Note that the Gentoo Weekly News reports today that 
> the Gentoo 
> > > > >> system has been ported to the the Darwin Kernel on PPC.
> > >
> > > You can now
> > >
> > > > >> have all your X11 based
> > > > >> toys _and_ Photoshop etc on the same machine without 
> rebooting!
> And the convenience of the Gentoo Portage system to install 
> and update you 
> apps.
> 
> --
> C. S.
> 
> 

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