> <rant>

> Stupid!  I like KPPP and I think it's a great interface for your pleb user.  
> Why did they ruin it?  Is there something that I've missed totally?  Perhaps 
> there is a user/group privilege that someone could draw my attention to?

I don't quite follow. There's a little plug icon in the KDE panel, right
clicking allows to choose a provider etc, left clicking dials the last
selected provider. You have to enter the details for each provider once,
tick whether you want to store the dialup password on the system or
enter it each time (a little window pops up when you click dial), and
you tick whether you want demand dialling. That's it, only the provider
details need to be entered as root (for obvious reasons). Any user can
dial. No other need for root. And it's been like that for at least the
past 2 distro versions. It's using kinternet though, not kppp, and you
may have found the reason why.

> Linux is still pretty cool, but I need to be able to stop novice users from 
> lousing up the setup I give them but at the same time I need them to be able 
> to _easily_ use the GUI so that it is a viable solution to Windoze.

Yep, no problem. Out of the box. What did you do wrong?

Volker

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