Hold on, paying clients generate (hopefully) a profit, with which I am
free to do as i please.

Now shall I charge you a 6 minute unit for replying to this
email???  :-)

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:25:35 +1200
"Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As a customer of Nick Rout - Solicitor, I hope that conveyance does not
> subsidise Linux advocacy.
> 
> LOL
> 
> Regards, Robert
> 
> If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 11:12 a.m.
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: LPI Certification
> 
> non-profit does NOT mean each course should be run on a break even basis.
> most non-profit organisations make a profit on one line of business to
> subsidise another. for example "op shops" run by the churches.
> 
> "non-profit" means that none of the members are entitled to any of the
> excess income over expenditure, and that such excess must be either
> accumulated or spent on the trust's aims.
> 
> For example the profit on teaching a professional course might be used
> for education of the masses about open source, but cannot be paid out to
> the members or trustees.
> 
> I believe that the trust should not operate courses on an uneconomic
> basis, it should strive to make a reasonable profit on commercial
> ventures (like teaching a commercial professional qualification), and
> use those funds for promoting its aims.
> 
> As an ancillary point, all costs have to be taken into account, indirect
> as well as direct. That includes depreciation (those computers and desks
> wil need replacing some day), rent, power, and probably many more
> overheads.
> 
> If we are well below market rates it may mean someone is not doing the sums
> right.
> 
> so, theres my 2 cents.
> 
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:43:51 +1200
> Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:11, you wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > >We need to have 6 students minimum for it to be a possibility at that
> > > >price.
> > > >If we cannot find the necessary 6 people then it would be possible to
> go
> > > >with
> > > >fewer students paying more.
> > > >1 - $1800
> > > >2 - $900
> > > >3 - $600
> > > >4 - $450
> > > >5 - $360
> > > >6 - $300
> > >
> > > Considering the eight letters I currently have after my name cost me
> over
> > > $10,000 this is a pretty good price.
> > So much so that I am sometimes left wondering about our sanity, but
> remember 
> > that OSTC is a non-profit. We don't have a horde of avaricious
> share-holders 
> > to placate every moment of the day. We'll see how the numbers balance out
> at 
> > the end of the exercise. I would not like to promise to repeat at the same
> 
> > price. So be in fellows. For example compare the above to the number
> > ( $2,500us ) mentioned at:- 
> > http://www.sgi.com/support/custeducation/courses/linux/intro.html
> > Which, at first sight anyway, does not appear to be offering quite as much
> as 
> > we are. 
> > 
> > > It may be a good idea to look into
> > > including the textbook in the course costs, perhaps it might be possible
> > > to get some kind of discount on the text if we buy 6 at a time. Or I
> could
> > > just be cheap.
> > Minimum order of 10 copies to get a disc.
> > 
> > > >You should also budget for a copy of the RUTE book, by Paul Sheer.
> > > >While its typesetting and general layout is idiosyncratic to say the
> > > >least,
> > > >it's by _far_ the best Linux admin book on the market. At approx $80 it
> > > >is
> > > >really pretty good value for money too. You could have a look at my
> copy
> > > >at
> > > >the next CLUG club night next week if you want.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Sincerely etc.,
> > Christopher Sawtell
> > 
> 


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