Look thats good David. The point I was really trying to make is that we
do not need to be scared of making something more than break even. Most
charities exist to push profits from commercial ventures into charitable
aims.  The provision of courses should IMHO be viewed as commercial or
semi-commercial ventures to subsidise other activities & overheads.

Of course that doesn't stop us giving a "reasonable discount" on the
course fees because the courses _themselves_ further the trust's aims.
ie we should be able to be cheaper than other providers while still
making some dosh for the other aims.

Then you get into the question: if a reasonably wealthy employer sends
along a staff member to learn LPI to make the employer's business run
better, should the employer pay the same price as someone on the dole
trying to upskill themselves? The government seems to say "yes, but we
will give the person on the dole a student loan to cover the fees"

These issues are complex. On the one hand the training of the wealthy
employer's IT person furthers the aim of spreading and cementing in OS
solutions. OTOH some in the trust may have a more "socialist" (inverted
commas used deliberately) tendency towards sponsoring the "poor" at the
expense of the "rich".

NZ education seems to have gone down the path of charging everyone the
same, but addressing social differences via loans and such like. how
much that philosphy should affect the OTSC is obviously for debate, and
probably OT this list.

Thanks for listening to my ranting.


On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:31:59 +1200
David Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nick,
> 
> > non-profit does NOT mean each course should be run on a break 
> > even basis.
> > most non-profit organisations make a profit on one line of business to
> > subsidise another. for example "op shops" run by the churches.
> 
> The price of the course will more than cover all the costs to run the
> course.  There should be enough left over to pay all other OSTC expenses for
> another month.
> 
> 
> Later
> 
> David Kirk
> 


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