While we probably all have sympathy for anyone who pays too much for an
item, surely "Caveat Emptor" applies.

Robert

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Wednesday, 5 November 2003 9:02 a.m.
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: year-old laptop pricelist

All the tax issues aside, I would suggest from business experience that the 
laptop was in fact overpriced.

A Celeron 1.2G laptop a year ago from someone like acer would have retailed 
(from memory) around the $2000 - $2200 mark.  Factors that affect the price 
significantly are things like screen size and quality, DVD / CD / CD-RW 
capabilities and hard drive.  

I have noted that the last two years has seen little price change in new 
laptops, just specs going up and things like CD-RWs becoming more standard
over 
CDs. (Having said that, IBM are selling Celeron 2GHz laptops for about
$1650ish 
at the bottom end of their market now... but thats seems to be an exception 
rather than a rule)

Sorry its not hard data, but I can probably ask a few suppliers to check if
you 
really need to know.  Although I would think your laptop provider is just
going 
to say, "so what, it was a year ago - go away".

It is a shame to see companies ripping off organisations that do public
good, 
like toy libraries and schools... I work mostly with education (mainly
primary 
schools, creches, etc) and it amazes me what some people will use as a cash-
cow... there should be laws against it.

Let me know if you need further help with this

Regards

Steve




> my better half is a tax specialist lawyer, and she maintains that the
> depreciation rates allowed by the IRD are very close to real life.
> 
> The rate for compters is 33% DV (diminishing value), ie:
> 
> pay $3,000.00
> 
> after one year take off 33% and its residual value is:
> 
> $2,000.00 (give or take a dollar)
> 
> after two years the firther depreciation is $660 (ie 33% of 2,000), and
> its residual value is $1,340.00
> 
> Of course, as Derek is pointing out, laptops may in fact depreciate at a
> greater rate, because of their "special" features.
> 
> (Actually i just checked the ird site, lappies have a 40% DV rate, so
> Derek is not far off agreeing with the IRD).
> 
> 
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 12:06:35 +1300 (NZDT)
> Derek Smithies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >  as a rule of thumb, you can say a laptop devalues by 50% in a year.
> > 
> > However, given that some laptops do a lot of travelling, they die after
a 
> > year (100% devaluation, disk dead, keyboard dead).
> > 
> > Although, I have a laptop here that is 3 years old. In my view, it is 
> > almost worthless. Too small, too slow, and hard to use.
> > 
> > Derek.
> > 
> > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Carl Cerecke wrote:
> > 
> > > I would be grateful if anyone could point me to a year-old laptop 
> > > pricelist in $NZ.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Carl.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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