On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 08:57, Don Gould wrote: > I've yet to actually see a fully interactive GUI based development and > debugging enviornment such as you get with VB, ASP (Visual Interdev) and the > rest of the Microsoft tools.
You're probably right. In the OSS world, if it hasn't been written, either it's not efficient given the current technology base, or "no-one" really wants it ... one of the current problems in Linux circles is that many advocates want "everyone" to use Linux, but can't do the work to make that happen themselves, and have to try to convince other developers to do it for them. And they're not convincing enough ... > but I've yet > to see anything other than very basic 'code and compile' CLI enviornments > that I used to use back in the early 80's. That to me is a huge step > backwards. > > Comments anyone? Well, an IDE typically makes it very to build and debug, on the (single) developer's workstation. If you want to distribute source, which is where most of the Unix/Linux world is at the moment, you can't assume that any particular IDE will be available, so you end up having to rely on gcc/makefile/other cli tools. And once you've put the effort into getting them working, you may as well use them for everything :-) And again, if you need to debug on the deployment machine, you have to use the tools that are there, and servers generally don't bother doing GUI. So you have to learn the cli toolset again :-) So I guess lots of people whose only target audience is GUI, might use IDEs more than those who write cli/server-based code. And that's most Windows and Mac developers ... -jim
