On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:53, Don Gould wrote:
> > From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > how soon did you look at the folder to see if it moved?
>
> Seconds later... I flicked to Mozilla (after waiting for Mozilla mail to
> finish doing what it was doing - moving the records) clicked the refresh
> button (the application one rather than the browser one) and waited...
> moments later (yes, moments not seconds (as I had expected)) the list
> reappeared with all the messages still displayed.
>
> > often it *appears* to
> > remain in the old folder until you "close" that folder by clicking on
> > another. That is to say, the client you did the moving in
> > (client 1) will
> > show it as moved, but it will still be in that folder on the
> > server. another
> > client (like your web client, call it client 2) will still
> > see it because the
> > server does not actually delete it until client 1 closes the
> > folder., usually
> > by clicking on another one or by closing the client.
>
> Yes I can see it doesn't behave as well as exchange server does when you do
> things.
>
> > which server and which web client?
>
> The web client is Open WebMail version 2.30
> (http://www.bvc.com.au/openwebmail/openwebmail.html)

I'll ask again, what server?

>
> > imap is a fine standard, but the implementations are
> > sometimes buggy, and
> > there are ambiguities in the standard, and the client
> > implementations are not
> > entirely consistent.
> >
> > usenet's comp.mail.imap is a good place to go for the real
> > oil. The developers
> > of UW server (who wrote the standard), and courier seem to
> > hang about there.
> > They will expect you to have done some homework, but thats to
> > be expected.

I'll add that the main problem seems to be that most programmers start writing 
a pop client that downloads mail to the local machine. When they migrate this 
to include imap they do not consider that it is a very different paradigm. 
Their clients insist on caching every damn header on the server, and taking 
ages to synchronise them. its a pain. 

One of the best, and most standards compliant email clients is mulberry, a 
commercial offering that works on mac, win and lin. It caches nothing by 
default. When it connects it downloads the last n headers, where n is the 
number of lines that will fit in the list of emails. no wasted time 
synchronising headers from last week, or last decade. When a client wants to 
search every header in the inbox for messages from "don" with the subject 
"imap" it tells the _server_ to do the search, rather than searching through 
locally cached headers. It is a very nice program, and does imap how it 
should be done.

But I rave, try it for yourself :-)






>
> Thanks for the notes Nick.  I can see there's more I need to add to my
> research list.
>
> Cheers Don

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