Thanks Jason, I covered 2 out of 18 today.
I installed both Mozilla and Firefox for web browsing. I also ran the Cacheman wizards so it's a bit hard to get any acurate comparision between what I was seeing performance wise and what I'm getting now because I've changed to many factors. Mozilla installed it's mail client at the same time so I set up IMAP (as per Nick's suggestion). So far I've discovered a couple of bugs. I attempted to move mail between folders and it didn't seem to move. I'm not sure why. Mozilla showed it as moved but my web interface didn't. My current thought is that I really need to set up some test imap mail systems and learn a lot more about it before I go recommending it to customers. Thanks for the rest of your list. I've thought for years about setting up a web site where users can list all their systems so that people can better find people to help them. Cheers Don > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Greenwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Transition Management - was RE: NZ Mirror for Best Web > browser for Windows > > > Here are my current OSS weapons of choice (for the record): > > Distro: Mandrake Cooker (with a stable 10.0 parition for when Cooker > borks my system) > > Mail: Mozilla > Browsing: Mozilla > FTP Client: gFTP > CD Burning: K3B (easy as falling off a log) or Eroaster > CD Ripping: RipperX > Calendaring: KOrganizer > IM'ing: GAIM > File Manager: XWC/Konqueror > Terminal: Konsole > Word Processor: Abiword/Open Office Writer > Spreadsheet: Gnumeric/Open Office Calc > MP3 Player: Juk/XMMS > Filesharing: giFT Daemon with the Apollon GUI Frontend (I think it is > better looking than Kazaa, just got it going last night after > a bit of > effort...) and it works with Fasttrack (Kazaa Protocol), > Gnutella, etc. > etc...it is plugin based, like GAIM is for IM. And please > spare me the > Copyright protectionists drivel... > Image Editing: Gimp2 (it rocks!) > Network Monitoring (shows my Net Traffic Levels): KnetLoad or Gkrellm > System usage monitor: KCPULoad or Gkrellm > Automounter: KwikDisk > Video Player: Aviplayer for AVI's, Kaffeine for everything else > > and that just about covers my daily use stuff for now... =) > > Regards, > > Jason > > Don Gould wrote: > >>From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>this is the canterbury LINUX users group > > > > > > (Nick, you'll find your apology on the second to last line) > > > > <RANT t='FRIENDLY :) '> > > > > ...for your consideration - sorry if this post is to long > for your average > > short attention list reader :) > > > > THE TRANSITION MANAGEMENT GAME by Donald J Gould > > > > SCENE ONE - Setting the Stage > > > > Customer: Do we need to get a new computer and upgrade to > Windows XP? > > > > Don: Why do you ask? > > > > Customer: My existing computer isn't working properly anymore after > > installed all those updates on it from Microsoft. > > > > Don: Have you considered using Firebird? > > > > Customer: Fire what? > > > > Don: It's a different web browser recommended by some guys > from CLUG. > > > > Customer: Who? > > > > Don: Bunch of guys from around Christchurch who all help > each other out with > > software. > > > > Customer: Oh. Do we still need a new computer? > > > > Don: I would suggest giving Firebird a go first and see if > it improves > > things. > > > > Customer: Ok, what does it cost? > > > > Don: Nothing, just my time to install it. > > > > Customer: Ok, that sounds good. Why don't I just install > it my self? > > > > Don: You can if you want, here's the URL to download it from. > > > > Customer: Thanks. > > > > > > > > SCENE TWO - Coffee With Customer > > > > Customer: That new web browser you recommended is really > good. It's made me > > realise just how slow my email is. You got any more free software? > > > > Don: Yes, just install the email client that Nick Rout from Clug > > recommended last month. > > > > (Note from script writer - sorry, was to lazy to look up what Nick's > > recommendation was, if you really want to know then check > out the clug > > archive!) > > > > Customer: Ok I'll give that a go. Can I set that one up > myself as well? > > > > Don: Yes, you can give it a go. It's a bit more complex > than a web browser > > but you can just give me a call if you get stuck. > > > > Customer: Ok thanks... I guess I owe you the next coffee > > > > (Note from scrip writer - the script writer is easy to > bribe with good > > coffee) > > > > > > > > SCENE THREE - Customers Office To Talk About Machine Upgrade > > > > Customer: My mail is fixed now thanks to that software that > Nick recommended > > but Word and Excel still run like a dog. Do you think we > should upgrade out > > machines? > > > > Don: have you considered using Linux? > > > > Customer: No, what's the benefit? > > > > Don: Lots > > > > Customer: I don't want to have to learn a heap of new applications! > > > > Don: You don't, you've already been using two of the most > common ones. If > > we upgrade you to Open Office from MS Word and MS Excel you > should also see > > some system performance increase. But if we were to change > you over to > > Linux from Windows then you should see quite a bit more. > > > > Customer: Really? > > > > Don: You've already seen the difference that using the > other applications > > had. You've already done the hard bit - you made a choice to change. > > > > Customer: Ok that makes a lot of sense. How much does > Linux cost and can I > > install that my self? > > > > Don: It's also free and yes you can install that your self > but I wouldn't > > recommend you do. > > > > Customer: Ok, what would you recommend then? > > > > Don: I can see you're keen to buy a new machine. I would > suggest that we > > install Linux on it and your other new applications and you > give it a test > > drive. I can also install Windows so you can compare the > difference and > > chop and change between each as you like. I think you'll > find that Linux is > > the better choice but you're best to make up your own mind. > > > > Customer: ..... (Dear Reader, you can make up your own > mind about how you > > think the customer would respond) .... > > > > +=+=+ THE END +=+=+ > > > > Dear Nick (and the others who were thinking the same thing! :), > > > > Yes you are quite right. This is a LINUX list and I am a > power WINDOWS > > user, programmer and system integrator. > > > > I CAN make money from WINDOWS (I've made lots in the past). > > > > 10 years ago the mission was to persuade people to use > MICROSOFT products > > rather than WordPerfect and Novell. > > > > "But NO ONE uses this NT thing you're recommending" is a > line I would hear > > every day. > > > > 15 years ago the mission was to persuade people to choose a > non TELECOM > > company to provide them with a PABX. > > > > "Who do we ring if our telephones don't work?" is the line > I would hear > > every day. > > > > Today the mission is to persuade people to put an OS on > their computers that > > is FREE. > > > > "What's the catch?" is the line I hear every day. > > > > > > > > I can log on to www.whirlpool.net.au (or #whirlpool on > Austnet) and ask > > AUSTRALIAN people what browser they would recommend and get > an immediate > > answer with out any issue. > > > > I posted the message on the CLUG list because I wanted to know what > > recommendation the local (CHRISTCHURCH) LINUX guys would > make and find out > > if there is a local mirror. > > > > Business people are always interested to know what level of > local support is > > available - especially in somewhere small and remote like > Christchurch. > > > > I assumed some of you will be using strategies like the one > in my story > > (above) to transition your clients from Windows to a Linux platform. > > Because I assumed this I thought it a fair question to ask > what applications > > you're using to do this. > > > > I apologise if that wasn't obvious. > > > > > > Cheers Don > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.715 (20040411) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. > http://www.nod32.com > >
