On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:03, Don Gould wrote:
> No Rik I didn't fine a mirror.
>
> It was only 18mb for all the stuff I downloaded this afternoon so it didnt'
> really matter.
>
> When I get a decent netlink in here I'm going to set up some mirror servers
> for all the oss I can find.
>
> Telstra run a really good one in AU and I think it makes a big impact on
> their getting bb customers, I know I loved it because the traffic wasn't
> counted towards data limits.  iiNet (iHug in NZ) also do the same thing
> with big mirrors and it makes a big difference.

the problem is international bandwidth cost, as we all know. Have you any idea 
the bandwidth needed to be, say, an ibiblio or a planetmirror? Not local 
bandwidth for the nz downloaders, but the international bandwidth to keep 
them up to date.

for example, here is the requirements to mirror gentoo:

"Minimum Bandwidth 

 To properly host a source mirror you should have a minimum of 5Mbps upstream 
bandwidth. ADSL and cable connections do not generally make adequate 
connections for distfile hosts due to their limited upstream performance.

 Minimum Disk Space 

 The space requirements depend on whether you choose to run a "Full" mirror or 
a "Distfiles only" mirror. Full mirrors require 60 gigabytes of disk space. 
Distfiles only mirrors require 30 gigabytes of space.

 Minimum User Count 

 We ask that you support a minimum of 15 and preferrably 30 concurrent user 
connections.

 Update Frequency 

All mirrors must be synchronized every four hours, starting at midnight in 
your local time zone. This helps distribute the load out over a period of 
time, rather than having all mirrors synchronize at the same time."

Now if citylink can't keep their gentoo and debian mirrors properly up to 
date, I'll eat at least a small skullcap when you manage to. If you can good 
luck, but i am not holding my breath.

>
> Thing about all these different web sites for different software is that
> you have to do so much jumping about to get your downloads and every web
> site seems to have stuff located in different places.
>
> I thought Jason's list before was fantastic but I can see how some people
> would object to hitting their download limit that hard.

 $5 a cd is cheap though x 3 or 4 for most distros.

> Now before the rest of you go on about keeping things up to date, it's not
> really that hard to make a web based site with information about the
> uptodateness of the files.  Most people don't give a toss if their files
> are the latest version when they're just downloading a version to give the
> software a go.  It actually anoys me more that I have to spend so long just
> looking for the version to download.

its called package management. depends on the distro, but to install the 
latest firefox its usually something like:

apt-get install firefox (fedora, debian,  others)
emerge firefox (gentoo)
urpmi (some option from the manpage) firefox (mandrake)

in most cases you can track various branches - stable, unstable etc.

Don't necessarily get your mozilla packages from mozilla.org, get them from 
your packager/distro. It means someone else has done the work you are talking 
about.


>
> I'd like to be able to go a page where I put in the type of machine and OS
> I'm using then get a complete list... I guess that's what download.com is
> for but that's not a local mirror is it?
>
> Cheers Don
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:46 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: NZ Mirror for Best Web browser for Windows
> >
> >
> > Did you find the req'd local mirror Don?
> >
> > If not, I can notify one for Firefox.
> >
> > Rik
> >
> > Don Gould wrote:
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Wesley Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>When I'm on Windows - happens regularly - I'm one of the
> > >>people on the St
> > >>Albans Neighbourhood Network - I try to use Mozilla, or Firefox.
> > >>http://www.mozilla.org/
> > >>Unfortunately I don't know of any NZ mirrors.  Sorry.
> > >
> > >Thank you for your recommendation.
> >
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