Christopher Sawtell wrote:

>On Mon, 03 May 2004 12:26, Nick Rout wrote:
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>>On Mon, 03 May 2004 12:17:39 +1200
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>>Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>Dick Smith Electronics are trying to in a rather half-hearted way.
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>>damned by faint praise ;-). I would rate them higher than that.
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>I have yet to wander into a DSE shop to be confronted by KDE / Gnome running 
>on one of the demo machines. Once I can do that I'll be very happy doing 
>s/rather half-hearted/wonderfully enthusiastic/ . Unfortunately not until.
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>>>Don: How about the notion of getting the management of Warehouse
>>>Stationery to at least know that Linux exists? What would be involved in
>>>getting that far? It would / could well be a good sell for them, as the
>>>cost of Linux is $0.00 as against approximately $500+++ for Windows.
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>>I assume youare talking about the pc's they sell as oppose to use
>>themselves?
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>Correct. Needless to say they could save themselves a lot of dough using Linux 
>on the Terminals. After all they are only text screens. Linux could do that 
>as easy as falling off a log.
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>>bundling is unfortunaltely a fact of life for retailers, 
>>especially if they sell brand name pc's and/or laptops.
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>The Warehouse is the largest retailer in the country. They have the clout to 
>push their suppliers around. They are into parallel importing in a big way. 
>If they wanted to, they could get Linux machines into the stores no trouble.
>Just like Wal-Mart does in an other part of the world. I suspect that the real 
>problem with the Warehouse is that a few years ago they were nearly put out 
>of business by a terrible computer system, and, quite reasonably, are more 
>than slightly allergic to getting involved with computers any more than they 
>absolutely have to. This would explain the rather minimal WWW site too.
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>>The cost of windows XP Home seems to be about $199 if the retailers who
>>do not bundle it are anything to go by (eg PC Practice ad in Buy Sell &
>>Exchange).
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>That's the cost of the O/S alone, as soon as you try to do anything useful on 
>a Win. PC you have to fork out yet more $$$$. OTOH a Linux PC comes with the 
>apps. ( 3000+ of them ) for $0.00. 
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>>But if retailers are selling brand name pcs or lappies then 
>>they pay for windows in the bundle anyway.
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>See above. For the Warehouse I don't think that that is necessarily the case.
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>>In that sense installing 
>>linux is a cost to them in terms of labour, training, support etc.
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>Indeed, but remember that that cost is one which stays in NZ, whereas the MS 
>cost goes off the Redmond 
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>>>The current Windows worm appears to have effectively shutdown the 'Net.
>>>Can we make use of that fact?
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>>Mine is going very slowly. My AV thingy is updating from germany at 6300
>>bytes/s on full speed jetstream.
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>It's perked up slightly now.
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I noted an OS free laptop running knoppix in the Riccarton DSE branch
yesterday.


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