Top says I have ~9 mb of ram free and 167mb of swap. 

I have 27 services running (most of which I have no idea what they are),
is this normal?

Are there any got'yas that I should know about and be looking for?

How do I get a basic list of the services that are running?

ntsysv gave me quite a nice graphic tool which is very kewl (as I always
was one for GUI) but that's not helpful if you just want to store a list
of what you had when you started.

Cheers Don

Below is my top output, does this look as expected?

 11:30:04  up 1 day, 17:55,  4 users,  load average: 0.13, 0.36, 0.47
84 processes: 80 sleeping, 4 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  20.3% user   1.3% system   0.0% nice   0.0% iowait  78.2% idle
Mem:   125992k av,  117680k used,    8312k free,       0k shrd,    4480k buff
                     85656k actv,     148k in_d,    1200k in_c
Swap:  257000k av,   89808k used,  167192k free                   56568k cached

  PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME CPU COMMAND
10236 root      15   0 24396 9.9M  1188 S     1.7  8.0 665:37   0 X
12325 don       15   0  7788 7216  4928 R     0.9  5.7   0:03   0 kdeinit
12476 root      16   0  1104 1104   848 R     0.3  0.8   0:00   0 top
10362 don       15   0  4628 3240  2140 S     0.1  2.5   0:08   0 kdeinit
10366 don       15   0  5712 4164  2532 S     0.1  3.3   0:45   0 kdeinit
10419 don       15   0  5012 3564  2180 S     0.1  2.8   0:04   0 evolution-addre
    1 root      15   0   464  432   416 S     0.0  0.3   0:03   0 init
    2 root      15   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 keventd
    3 root      15   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 kapmd
    4 root      34  19     0    0     0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00   0 ksoftirqd_CPU0
    9 root      15   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 bdflush
    5 root      15   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 kswapd
    6 root      15   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 kscand/DMA
    7 root      15   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 kscand/Normal
    8 root      15   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 kscand/HighMem
   10 root      15   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 kupdated
   11 root      22   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 mdrecoveryd
   15 root      15   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:01   0 kjournald
   73 root      25   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 khubd
 1179 root      15   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 kjournald
 1224 root      25   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00   0 knodemgrd
 1485 root      15   0   580  552   504 S     0.0  0.4   0:00   0 syslogd
 1489 root      15   0   404  360   356 S     0.0  0.2   0:00   0 klogd
 1507 rpc       15   0   496  420   420 S     0.0  0.3   0:00   0 portmap
 1526 rpcuser   25   0   628  552   552 S     0.0  0.4   0:00   0 rpc.statd
 1582 root      25   0   600  460   456 S     0.0  0.3   0:00   0 cardmgr
 1606 root      24   0   468  424   420 S     0.0  0.3   0:00   0 apmd
 1643 root      24   0   724  484   480 S     0.0  0.3   0:00   0 sshd
 1657 root      22   0   680  564   560 S     0.0  0.4   0:00   0 xinetd
 1674 ntp       15   0  2384 2384  2152 S     0.0  1.8   0:00   0 ntpd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] don]#


On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 09:52, Nick Rout wrote:
> top provides an interactive view in a terminal, and there are many
> variants for X, which often go under varying names like 'system monitor'
> in the menuing system
> 
> RAM is likely to be a big part of your problem - how much ram and swap
> do you have (run the program "free" in a terminal to find out).

> My son's pII 433 (128M RAM) goes fine on kde, not snappy like a modern
> machine, but very usable. 
> 
> Also check what services you are running. In a terminal (as root) run
> ntsysv and see what services are turned on by default. turn off those
> not required. NB, this does not turn off the service, it sets whether it
> is turned on in your present runlevel. to turn a service off now run:
> 
> service sendmail stop
> 
> where sendmail is the service you wish to terminate.
> 
> Recompiling your kernel is a moderately complex affair, first you need
> the kernel sources that redhat supply. (Actually you can use any kernel
> sources, but IMHO it is best to start with what redhat supply. They
> heavily patch their kernel and if you start using another set of sources
> you are going to find that things that worked with the redhat kernel
> suddenly don't work any more!)
> 
> However I would work on reducing your services and buying another stick
> of RAM first.
> 
> You might also want to use a less hungry window manager like windowmaker,
> fluxbox, xfce. (This can be the start of a religious war if I am not
> careful). 
> 
> Also you are right , evolution is a fine email client, but very resource
> hungry. try sylpheed if you want a lightweight one.
> 
> Frankly your machine may be a little underpowered to experience the full
> glory of a modern OS, I suspect XP would be sluggish too (now I 'll get
> flamed for mentioning XP in the context of a modern OS). Don't tell me
> W98 runs well on it, its too old. A 1998 linux distro would probably run
> fine too, except, like 98, it would be a security nightmare!
> 
> 
> On Mon, 24 May 2004 09:28:54 +1200
> Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > How do I find out what things are taking up memory and processor time?
> > 
> > I'm sure that RH9 on a PIII-450 shouldn't be this bad.  
> > 
> > It takes up to 10 seconds just to open a new mail message and minutes to
> > open or close things like mail reader and web browser.  
> > 
> > Coming back from screen saver is a slow process as well.
> > 
> > I suspect I've just got to much crap from the kernel up.
> > 
> > Are there any good wizard tools or do I need to use a set of complex CLI
> > commands?
> > 
> > Cheers Don
> > 
> > Ps: Still loving this mail reader.

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