Thanks Nick,

I apologise if this sub-commentary qualifies as "threadjacking", of which I'd need confirmation to start a new thread. Also, should I be limiting the size of this post?

I meant to ask if anyone else had the mail delays happening too.

This exercise is teaching me though.

Firstly, digging through /home/rik/.mozilla/default/ofu7f00d.slt/Mail/Local Folders/CLUG.sbd/ ..etc reveals there are more headers available than Mozilla-View-Headers-All will actually display.

Secondly, that shows my timestamps on the original post to be mostly like yours, except the 1st "From":

From - Thu Jun 17 14:54:59 2004
X-UIDL: 5858cfd946ad2c9ef26c36ec5d6c2618
X-Mozilla-Status: 0003
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
Received: from jozlin.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.35])
by tyler.snap.net.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 )
id 1Bacim-0004Zr-00; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:53:04 +1200
Received: from cantva.canterbury.ac.nz ([132.181.2.27])
by jozlin.snap.net.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))
id 1Bacim-0007pE-00; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:53:04 +1200
Received: from PROCESS-DAEMON.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz
(PMDF V6.2-X27 #30791) id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]); Thu,
17 Jun 2004 03:52:53 +1200 (NEW ZEALAND STANDARD TIME)
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:52:02 +1200
From: G Chinnery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SSH *8-(
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Netscape/7.1 (ax)
X-PMAS-Software: PreciseMail V2.0 [040603] (cantva.canterbury.ac.nz)
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I know I am a bit of a newbie and I have only just started with SSH due
to [clip] ...

Further, I have noticed a 12-hour difference in my host's server time, from my local time, when doing FTP - this could be in wider effect on the ISP's network (less one hour's unadjusted daylight saving presently?).

But lastly, I'm wondering if Mozilla itself could be misbehaving, & not displaying all the mail it gets immediately upon receipt? Could clock differences cause that?

Answers not wholly expected here  :-)

Nick Rout wrote:

On looking at your own message to the list i note this from the headers:

Received:  from gollum.snap.net.nz (gollum.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.26])
by loki.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064D48B26     for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:43:29 +1200
(NZST)
Received:  from mail by gollum.snap.net.nz with spam-scanned (Exim 3.35
#1 (Debian)) id 1BasUQ-0001HI-00  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:43:28 +1200
Received:  from p56-tnt2.snap.net.nz ([202.124.108.56]
helo=infohelp.co.nz) by gollum.snap.net.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1
(Debian)) id 1Ban69-0003oM-00  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:57:54 +1200


ie your ISP (gollum.snap.net.nz) received it at 14:57:54 but didn't spam
check it until 20:43:28. I conclude that gollum is probably probably
underpowered to cope with scanning its mail queue.


It is probably faring just as badly with mail being sent to you.
therefore mail takes a long time to reach you.

Time  for another ISP?

Drastic, but possible!

On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 14:59, InfoHelp wrote:


Hi folks,

This original post just arrived in my Inbox (14:54 /pm)

G Chinnery wrote:



I know I am a bit of a newbie and I have only just started with SSH due to upgrading my Distro to Mandrake 8.1 then 10.0.
But SSH makes life very difficult.
So far I have followed the instructions from the web pages given to me and still I can't access any of my boxes with out having to give a password.
And as for my web scripts those don't work at all.
I have run them in a shell and when the script asks for the password from a server, I type in the password and it won't even let me in full stop.
I would rather use SSH than have to install rsh to get this working, so any ideas???


G.Chinnery.


Does anyone know where in the works CLUG posts are being held up?
There doesn't seem much consistency between subscriber receive times.
- Host ISP spam filters?
Any remedies?

Cheers
Rik

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