On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 21:00, steve wrote:
> Nick Rout wrote:
> 
> >On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 17:28, steve wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Hi Folks,
> >>
> >>I've been playing around with my network access, mainly at getting in 
> >>from the outside. I've got an ihug account ( look, I'm new here, and the 
> >>gf liked the name(: ), and I'm accessing through a Speedtouch 510 ADSL 
> >>modem and a 256kB account.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >how are you trying to get in from the outside? you actually need to _do_
> >it from the outside.
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I've set up a no-ip account which seems to work fine ( I can ping and 
> >>get a sensible name back ). However, I can't access anything behind the 
> >>router. I've set up routes to a web server, with no luck. I downloaded a 
> >>bit of software that probes the ports, and find that ftp, telnet, pop3, 
> >>smtp and 1723 (?) are open ( I also find that ihug seems to guard 
> >>against the monitoring of ports! ).
> >>
> >>OK, but when I try to route incoming on ftp to port 80 on one of my 
> >>servers, I get no response. I've even gone to the lengths of setting up 
> >>a default destination, and telnetting to the ports in question, but I 
> >>still get no response.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >this has nothing to do with routing! you need to learn something about
> >NAT. By default nothing gets in through NAT, you need to set up what is
> >usually called a pinhole, or a port-forward. This needs to be set up on
> >the router, and the parameters are usually (with examples):
> >
> >external port (81)
> >internal port (80)
> >internal IP (192.168.1.100)
> >protocol (tcp)
> >
> >This setup would mean tcp packets arriving at the external interface on
> >port 81 are forwarded to port 80 on internal machine 192.168.1.100 
> >
> >you need to explore how to do that on your router.
> >
> >NAT means that you cannot test this from the inside, you need to get a
> >mate to do it from out on the net. (Actually thats not quite true, if
> >you have, say, ssh access to another box outside your lan, or vnc or X
> >access to such a machine, you can test it, but the incoming packet
> >/does/ have to originate from outside)
> >
> >if you want me (and not the rest of the world) to try to access you,
> >send me an email offlist. 
> >
> >Nick
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Is it me? Is it ihug? Is is my router?
> >>
> >>I had very little hair to start with, but it's getting less by the minute ):
> >>
> >>If anyone's got a 256KB ADSL account with an isp they would recommend 
> >>that allows me access from outside on a variety of ports, then could 
> >>they please let me know!
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> Nick,
> 
> I sometimes use incorrect words, like 'route', because I'm self taught. 
> Please make allowances for this.
> 
> Steve

well ask a misleading question and people will give you irrelevant
answers. 

as for swapping ports around, security through obscurity is not security
at all.

I offered help to test your ports from the outside, I am guessing you
now completely understand what is going on and don't want to take up the
offer.

I have never heard of ports on adsl being blocked, but may I suggest you
ask on the adsl mailing list, where there may be more collective wisdom
with ihug's particular service.

http://www.unixathome.org/adsl/


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