On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:10:15 +1200 (NZST) Derek Smithies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, > Having had a couple of days to digest the storm of emails on this thread, > there is one thing that should be noted. > > We have all heard stories of how some linux expert came along, did an > install, and left the computer owner with a new OS. And the new owner > struggled. > > My view is that if we are to do a LTSP roll out somewhere, we have to be > willing to commit to the maintenance. That does mean more than just > "answering questions to the list". We have to be prepared to help the > person there. Otherwise, the linux bits are going to be removed. > > It may be quite a bit of work. > Suppose we help out, and train up teacher X in the usage. > Then, teacher X leaves. > Sigh, we have to start the process with another teacher. yes or person X from these parts finishes Uni, gets a job, has kids, whetever, and leaves the school in the lurch. > > Derek. > ========================================= > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, David Kirk wrote: > > > Here is an idea that would give people the option to run Windows programs or > > Linux programs. There is no need for dual booting, emualtors or virtual > > machines. > > > > Set up an LTSP server and install lots of applications on it. On the > > Windows workstations, install Cygwin/X (or have them run it from a Samba > > share). Configure it to run in Multi-Window mode on startup > > (startxwin.bat). Now install PuTTY and Plink. Create icons or batch files > > that use Plink to create an ssh session to the LTSP server and run > > applications from the Linux server on the local X server. > > > > This will allow people to run Linux applications and Windows applications > > simultaneously. They probably won't even know that it is a Linux > > application. > > > > I have partially tested this here at work. I haven't installed LTSP, but I > > do have a headless linux box under my desk. It works beautifully. There > > are still a few minor issues to sort out (like authentication and getting > > rid of the command prompt that opens up), but it looks very promising. > > > > Now if someone wants to run one of these applications at home they will have > > to install Linux :-) > > > > You could also have an etherboot floppy (or a boot EPROM in the ethernet > > cards) for each workstation. Then they can have a full KDE/Gnome/OtherDM > > desktop if they want. > > > > The other option is to run a full Linux Desktop on top of the Windows > > desktop. I have already documented this at > > http://clug.inode.co.nz/index.php/Cygwin. I have also just updated that > > doco with instructions for running Linux apps on your Windows desktop. > > > > > > Later > > > > David Kirk > > > > > > > > -- > Derek Smithies Ph.D. This PC runs pine on linux for email > IndraNet Technologies Ltd. If you find a virus apparently from > me, it has > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] forged the e-mail headers on someone > else's machine > ph +64 3 365 6485 Please do not notify me when > (apparently) receiving a > Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/ windows virus from me...... -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
