Back to the topic of this thread, the problem with Ubuntu on Johns computer is actually a documented bug (in Bugzilla) of the Ubuntu installer and has been fixed in Hoary. So he is just going to wait a month for Hoary, and use Warty on his laptop.

Thanks for all the suggestions anyway :),
Hugo.


On 7/02/2005, at 10:34 PM, Nick Rout wrote:

On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 22:14 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote:
Am I missing something here? What I've seen of Ubuntu ( at a CLUG
meeting ), it came across to me as a messy pile of ****, and a rather
small, feature poor one at that. That, and the fact that they've gone
out on a limb with the default security policy,

do you mean the sudo thing/no root password? I have grown to like it.
my first real introduction to unix (not counting Slackware 3 on a 386 back in the day - kernel 1.2!) was when I bought a Mac OS X box about three years ago, and sudo is how its done on OS X, so it seems completely natural for me under ubuntu. i find it really convenient when i type a command and hit enter and then realize it needs to be run as root, so hit [ctrl+a] and type sudo [enter].... rather than su [enter] then re-type the command as root :)

up to date kernel and packages on a debian like system (the primary
advantage being apt i guess), regular release cycle, adherence to
principles of openness/freedom, non commercial, free pressed cd's with
sexy girls on the cover shipped anywhere in the world (the cd's not the
girls).

Jim will know more.

I am not entirely convinced yet, its a most useful tool for the kit
though. I wouldn't say it is feature poor, it is designed as a desktop
system without the confusion caused by the choice of 4 browsers, three
email programs, 10 IM clients and 47 million configuration tools.

The main draw-cards for me were the Debian packaging system, openness/freeness - basically all the good stuff from Debian without the excessive choice :)



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