<rant> Given that there will be (at least) a large minority of people who want to try something a bit more hardcore, and upgrade from ubuntu or similar, then the apalling level of documentation that comes along with gentoo will probably put them off for life. The bug has been found and documented, so why is page 6 not reflecting the change?
Is it a rite of passage, like learning all the switches to cpio? </rant> Come back debian, all is forgiven (: Steve On Tue, February 8, 2005 9:31 am, Nick Rout said: > Here is a description of the ipv6 problem i mentioned earlier: > > This is copied from a message on the gentoo-user list on 19 January. > > Personally I never use mirrorselect as there are no official mirrors in nz > and jetstreamgames does me nicely. > > Also remember that you can do an install from the sources on the universal > livecd, or the binaries on the packages cd. > > cheers. > > "The sequence of steps given in... > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#book_part1_chap6 > appears to be causing problems, according to traffic on the Gentoo users > mailing list. Here is my diagnosis of what is going wrong. > > The current sequence in Chapter 6a is... > - first run mirrorselect > - then chroot > > The current LiveCD appears to have IPV6 networking enabled. > Paradoxically, it is causing problems for users whose ISPs support IPV6, > or at least IPV6 tunneling over IPV4. Here is the situation in detail > > - mirrorselect tries a whole bunch of mirrors, including several > IPV6-only mirrors > > - If your ISP *DOES NOT* support IPV6 (including IPV6 tunneling) > things work OK. Attempting to contact the IPV6-only mirrors fails, > and mirrorselect picks a bunch of IPV4-accessable mirrors, and > things work OK. > > - If your ISP *DOES* support IPV6 (or at least IPV6 tunneling), you > run into problems. Since hardly anyone is on IPV6, the IPV6-only > mirrors have a lot less traffic, and are much more responsive to > download requests. So mirrorselect's speed-tests will always > favour the IPV6-only sites, and put them in your MIRRORS variable. > > Apparently, while the LiveCD has IPV6-enabled networking, the chrooted > environment is IPV4-only. After chrooting, you have IPV4-only networking > software trying to contact IPV6-only servers... oops. This is consistent > with the problems reported on the mailing list, by *SOME* people > (i.e. those whose ISP supports IPV6 in some manner). > > The solution to this problem is quite simple... > - first chroot > - then run mirrorselect > > This will cause mirrorselect to choose only servers that can be > accessed from the chrooted environment. Today, this will result in > mirrorselect only picking IPV4-accessable mirrors. Somewhere down the > road, if/when the Gentoo install puts IPV6 networking into the chrooted > environment, then mirrorselect will pick up IPV6 mirrors." > > > > > On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:55:31 +1300 (NZDT) > Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thanks Nick, >> >> Maybe now I'll break the 24 hour barrier for a single install (: >> >> Cheers, >> >> Steve >> On Tue, February 8, 2005 8:40 am, Nick Rout said: >> > On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 08:04 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: >> >> So, using the mirrorselect command to create myself a list of the 4 >> most >> >> useful sources gives me three that are uncontactable, and one in >> poland >> >> with no current sources on. >> >> >> >> Can anyone suggest some useful sources so I can get this thing off >> the >> >> ground? >> > >> > /etc/make.conf >> > >> > GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz/gentoo"; >> > >> > mirrorselect does not work well round this backwater of the internet, >> > and it also has problems getting confused about ipv6 mirrors. >> > >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> > -- >> > Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. > > -- > Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
