> Its saying, hey we are using the latest versions of the open standards,
> some open source products have not kept up.

I'd agree with you if you were talking about "some open source
products". However, ghostscript is not just "some" stuff, it is one of
the backbones in your Linux system (try printing without), and as such a
critical component.

> Personally I do not think that a package such as scribus which is
> actually trying to make a commercial grade open source product should be
> held back by the fact that some open source software cannot handle later
> versions and/or the high end features of the ps and pdf formats.

True. But consider:

*) A claim for interoperability is incompatible with output which
doesn't show in *VERY* widely used software. Which side is at fault is
irrelevant!

*) Convince me that the latest whatnot in pdf is necessary for scribus.
The answer whether this is necessary for the pdf Chris produced is
clear.

*) The scribus site also waffled about the javascript in their pdfs. Can
I take anyone seriously who stuffs programs into my documents?

> You
> cannot go to a professional print house and say "sorry no we cannot
> produce pdf version 1.4 or 1.5 because we want to maintain compatibility
> with some old version open source tools"

1) A professional print house would be able to print pdf 1.2.

2) GPL ghostscript (7.07) does read and write pdf 1.4. It does not read
that pdf 1.4 'stuff' produced by scribus. I can do without 'stuff' which
floats over CLUG. I can not do without ghostscript. And I have little
interest in upgrading my ghostscript (for a number of reasons), esp when
I have a recent version.

> So in the end perhaps its Chris is saying "screw your older open source
> pdf software", not scribus!

Naah, he's just saying "I'm an arrogant bastard who doesn't care who can
read my stuff and I will stick with XYZ, never mind that even pdf 1.2
would do just fine"... ;)))

I've never heard of fpdi (a php pdf import function), but xpdf and
acroread can read Chris's file. So no, I'm not desperate :)

Volker

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