Deane Foreman wrote:

Carl Cerecke wrote:

Christopher Sawtell wrote:

On Tue, 31 May 2005 08:50, Carl Cerecke wrote:

John Carter wrote:

On Sun, 29 May 2005, Richard Tindall wrote:

But I have tried to deepen the evolutionary theme - and thanks for
the idea John - here:

http://www.infohelp.co.nz/404.html

Raw internet with the lid off! I love it!


But then it descends into (IMHO bizarre and incorrect) assumptions:


I'm tightening it up as fast as possible. Good science is needed here :-)

"Indeed, it is the treating of printed text and language expressions
as static, sacred, and superior that fuels the world's worst wars."

No, "Sticks and stones break your bones, but words will never hurt you"

To quote Dr. Seuss: "I said, and said, and said those words. I said them, but I lied them".

Far from never hurting you, words have the power of life and death.


Yes. Words are (fully influential) abstracted sticks & stones - look at them: l + O to make each character.
(We learnt to make letters from 'sticks & oranges', as kids, as I recall.)

<pet theory>

Binary could be the primordial symbology, beneath our alphabet. I.e. counting & math (beginning to see & express "I", "yOu", "all our family unit numerically - 5 to 10", "that tribe next door who might outnumber us" ...) is probably where we developed the ability for abstract thought, to survive, and started recording math-language - in the sand.

Stick & stone abacus = market binary. ..African herdsmen carried cattle counts as notches in their walking sticks, which produces a lot of shavings until another carrier - 0 - is introduced theoretically (abstraction upon abstraction).

Highly speculative, but it fits. :-)

</pet theory>

It's oil that fuels wars. I look forward to the day when it is exhausted.


C'mon Chris. Oil certainly can fuel some wars (nice double meaning there, BTW), but the history of war is much older than petroleum.


All war is about property, or in other words, resource.


This is my precise point. The old testament is a document of title, asserting ownership of the middle east by a shepherd tribe. Someone has to settle the dispute, and who can like the present means employed over there? Humanity is better than that.

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