On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:12:56 +1200
Roger Searle wrote:

> in my original email i attempted to do this and posted the output of 
> dmesg | grep media, and grep hdd, though wasn't clear enough myself 
> about what it was telling me.  i was close. 

I didn't quite understand what the output was telling us in your
original post, so probably glossed over it. Looking back though it does
seem to indicate that a hdd and hdc were detected. 

Another thing to do might have been to 

dmesg|grep -i cd

would find (case insensitive) references to CD-ROM's and the like. see
volker's post that just arrived too, about other places to look
(/proc/ide)

(thats another hindsight thing of course, but we improve by remembering
these things for next time. I might sound like a real command line
advocate but it did take me ages and ages to learn what skills I do
have. It took me ages to even grok grep, so i would redirect the output
have. It took me ages to even grok grep, so i would redirect a long
output  to a file, then open the file in an editor and search through
the file - very tedious!)

> 
> i'm just glad that it is finally working, and that i predominantly used 
> a command line approach, which tells me i am making slow but steady 
> progress up the (still steep but flattening) learning curve. 
> 
> 

Nothing beats sitting down and diagnosing a few problems to build that
familiarity. The good thing with unix is that you can hide all that
stuff from the average user by throwing them a nice gui, but the command
line is there if you need to debug something. I find that because of my
computer knowledge a lot of people ask me to fix something on their
windows computers, and its often hard to know where to begin. No text
config files. No ability to see what files were installed by package X.
No clear place to find log info. 

Do we need a session on diagnosing problems? Pretty tedious watching
someone else play on the command line on a projector, and hard to read
too. I wonder how it could be made more interesting? Perhaps a suite of
computers with a set of problems, get several people to solve the
problems and explain how they did it? But where do we get a suite of
computers? 


-- 
Nick Rout

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