I have to agree with you Chris, and I've been wondering how this thread in any 
way relates to linux.  Having said that I can't suggest a better venue for 
this other than the NZNOG (google it, NBNOG is not linux related).

Cheers,
Michael.

>===== Original Message From [email protected] =====
>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:38, Richard Tindall wrote:
>> > It's not strangeness... it's a lack of connectivity. No voodoo involved.
>>
>> Well, I wasn't looking for any. I asked what other people's experience
>> of the network/hardware condition had been, rather than suggest any deep
>> insight into my own. That's how one learns.
>
>No it is not! You might learn the odd fact and anecdote that way, but what 
you
>learn off e-mail lists and IRC channels is actually pretty limited. By far
>the best way to learn virtually anything is to read the literature. By so
>doing you will also learn the language constructs and nomenclature that any
>particular branch of human activity uses. You will then be able to
>communicate with your peers in such a way so that there is no space for
>ambiguity. The resultant misunderstandings, which btw, sometimes cause your
>peers more than just a trice of aggravation, can thus be avoided.
>
>--
>C. S.

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