On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 22:00 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:16, Nick Rout wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 17:51 +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
> > > And *never* vi /etc/passwd.
> >
> > It was an example!
> Indeed, but what Steve said is _very_ valid none the less, and similarly
> *never* vi /etc/group use vigr instead, and for the puppies who are allergic 
> to vi, both vipw and vigr will default to your 'editor of choice'.

and indeed you probably don't even need to know how to change your
editor of choice in a pinch, because you should be able to:

EDITOR=whatever vipw

> 
> ZZ Damn!
> 

ohh true, and presumably visudo and crontab -e for similar reasons.

And BTW I wasn't saying that vi isn't a useful tool. Just install
FreeBSD and try to change anything without vi skills and you'll be
rebooting to find that vi cheat sheet!

I did think I had read somewhere that some standard mandated that vi
should be present on every unix (linux?) install, but it may have been a
bad dream...

Actually it is a damn good system (in the improved vim version) but you
really do need to be forced to use it a few times to get those little
keystrokes into your head.

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