socks:/usr/src# du -sh linux*
305M    linux-2.6.8.1
315M    linux-2.6.10
340M    linux-2.6.14

Steve, that 2 Gb of stuff will be compiled .o files and so on that you just
don't need.  How long did it take to compile your kernel?



-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:44 a.m.
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bloat!


On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:04, Steve Holdoway wrote:
> Been having some problems getting the video camera to talk 1394 with 
> my desktop box, so decided to see if a hand-rolled kernel would boot 
> by now ( due to me using reiserfs everywhere, this is a know problem 
> ).
>
> Downloaded 2.6.14.2 from kernel.org, and used the default 
> configuration for FC4 to build it from.
>
> And promptly ran out of disk space.
>
> It now requires 2.1GB to build your own kernel.
Absolutely untrue.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ du -s /usr/src/*
0       /usr/src/linux
284078  /usr/src/linux-2.6.14-rc4-mm1
286474  /usr/src/linux-2.6.15-rc1-mm2


> Obviously less if you
> get rid of all of the options that you don't need, which is a long and
> tedious task to say the least!
Similar to above. Total FUD. Where have you been getting your 'facts'? Just
remove the bloatware .config file provided by the distributor who 
wants to ram every driver down their customers throats 'Just in case he's 
a total nitwit who can't ( be bothered to ) learn how to configure and 
compile his kernel'.

To give the distributors a modicum of credit their 'chuck it all in' 
configuration method will work, but the downside is that the kernel plus 
all modules compilation will take '10 times' as long and '10 times' more 
disk space.

Looks as if the CLUG needs to put on more, somewhat more detailed, kernel 
configuration and compilation lessons.

Any takers?

Prep. reading available at:-
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awww.gentoo.org+kernel+configuration&ie
=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
In particular:-
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.0/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=7#
manual
for a pretty basic tutorial.
And for a much solidly grounded approach to the subject:-
http://rute.2038bug.com/node45.html.gz

> Unbelievable!
Not really, haven't you noticed how almost all big corporates now-a-days 
seem to make the assumption that their customers are either criminals or 
intellectual defectives. RedHat now qualify as a 'big corporate' for the 
purposes of this sentence.

> Steve
> PS. Anyone had any success with modern kernels and Nvidia 2 ieee1394 
> ports? I know a load of work has been done on this interface, but kino
> *used* to work fine with my trusty Canon MV30.

-- 
CS

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