> in - and I've installed SuSE 9.3 on it.  (A bit of a change for me - I've been
> using Mandrake up to now - but a trip from the Seine to the Elbe shouldn't be
> that far! ;)

Not sure whether Mandrake is developed at the Seine, but SuSE has never
been near the Elbe ;) However, kudos for getting the rivers through the
respective capitals right.

> I tried using kinternet, and it did everything except talk to the modem.  I
> don't know why - I went through all the steps it expected, to set it up.

With SUSE, forget about kppp no matter what. kinternet is vastly
superior. Should you in some instances have more luck with kppp, then
that is purely a question of ppp options being used. Find out the
correct ones, and configure them with kinternet (no I don't know off the
top of my head how to do this).

Right-click on the KDE panel plug icon, select view log. This gives you
the pppd daemon log in real-time. If you can't get network connectivity,
this contains all you need to know tp debug the problem. In a crunch,
put pppd into verbose mode (see above, off the top of head). Getting
pppd to go with kinternet is well worth the trouble.

Once kinternet/wvdial/pppd are running properly, chances of network
trouble are basically silch. Ok if you misconfigure your gateway
interface, too bad (with ppp, it's specified by the ISP!).

I went to some trouble to get the common NZ ISPs into SuSE. Select
yours, and check the wvdial "stupid mode". Most of the NZ ISP don't seem
to need it, but when it's necessary to go "stupid", you'll get a
connection failure without, so always try it out.

> So what are the incantations, etc, that I need to get those apps talking to 
> the
> ISP server?

A functional internet connection, nothing else.

Volker

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