On Thursday 23 February 2006 17:25, Andrew Errington wrote:
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Settle down for the night,

I have a 18 month yarn to tell you with TC NZ.

Settled ?   Lets start,

My wife in her infinate wisdom decided to pay TC extra for the month of Dec 
(think '03).

In Jan we got an account that said $xxxx credit (after paying the bill).

Feb account came it said $tttt to pay with $xxx credit $ yyyy was left to pay.

Months passed and life was well till one day in august we got a voice message 
asking if the bill payer could ring TC.

Wife dutifully rang only to be told she insn't the one who's name is on the 
bill (mine is).

I rang and got told we owed $XXX for the last 90 days.

We (wife and i went through our accounts - yup we have accounts going back 
yonks).

we found the accounts that was spoken of and well lets say after @ 6 phone 
calls 3 emails (me saying we don't owe you anything) an help lass did some 
home work and proved to us that we did owe the money.

Life was fine for 2 months then another call saying we were in the red again.

around 6 phone calls and a couple more emails.

I got a reply saying we owed (reducing of price to $11.90 then i phone and 
said no we don't and then another call to say it was $111.00 and me saying 
no.

Finally i wanted to speak with a manager, Super was _very_ excited about this 
turn of events.

It was suggested that i might want to speak with her in person (which i said 
yes to).

I the mean time it was dropped to $89.00.

then to Zero $$$.

I'd threadened legal action, fair go, commerce commision (the big wet no good 
dept it is) spoke with Nick R (on this list about matter) then get a letter 
on the friday before going into see the supervisor that we owed Nothing and 
it was all a big mistake.

story ends and we've lived happily with TC since.

So it does pay to push back a bit as you never know what'll happen.

> The alternative is to keep asking to speak to supervisors.  I spoke to the
> Head of Disconnections, threatening to leave my ISP as I was royally
> pissed.  He was very patient and helpful, and actually sorted out my
> problem-of-the-time.
>
> It is a sad fact that griping here will have no effect.  You must tell
> someone who cares.  Really.  Complaining is an art, and to be successful
> you need the following:
>
> 1) Know exactly what you are complaining about.  Have figures, names, dates
> and details to hand- write them down so you can refer to them later.  Add
> to them as things happen, and whilst you are in the process of complaining
> on the phone.
> 2) Know what you want to achieve as a resolution.  This is often
> overlooked- there's no point in complaining for the sake of it, you have to
> know what you want.  For example, if you know what the solution to this
> particular problem, then demand (or rather, suggest most vehemently) that
> it is implemented.  If you think you can put a monetary figure on your
> distress, suggest that you are compensated.
> 3) Be polite.  Most people on this list are tech-savvy, but when you are
> talking to the front-line tech support staff then remember, these people
> are used to talking to grannies who forgot their password, or people who
> unplug their modems (or keyboards, or anything) and can't get on the
> internet.  They are not used to tech-types calling up as usually we solve
> our own problems.  If you are not getting anywhere then ask to speak to a
> supervisor, but remember, these are people who are being paid to help you.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Andy

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